Griffin Alstott
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I won't be watching if that happens, so I don't really care.
What if they go to bowl games 10 straight years? Would you watch then? Because that's all Georgia tech-Air Force and Navy do. Win lots of games and go bowling.
Calhoun has run all different types of offense.
Likely wouldn't bring the option here if hired.
Has had success in different schemes before.
Likely wouldn't bring the option here if hired.
Has had success in different schemes before.
It faces a passer every day in practice and can't stop a decent passer. What is going to change?
Where is this thought that Calhoun runs multiple types of offense come from? He's a former option QB under Fisher DeBerry at Air Force. He left Air Force to go to Ohio, where Jim Grobe (who learned the option from Fisher DeBerry at Air Force from '84-94) ran the option. They both moved on to Wake Forest, where they ran the option. He has 1 year as an Offensive Coordinator in the NFL, with the Texans, and Kubiak called all the plays. He becomes the HC at Air Force, where he runs the option. Is he running the option out of different formations now? Yes. But he's still running the option.
Why do people think this leopard is going change his spots, and suddenly not run the option?
Why do people think this leopard is going change his spots, and suddenly not run the option?
People dont want Calhoun because he runs an offense that fits his talent, but, they want Miles because his offenses air it out?
Miles is far from my first choice. He would recruit much better than the Haze though, which would be worth something. And if he brought along Sark, we might actually see an offense from this millennium.
Veer is the basis for a lot of what Clemson, Baylor and OSU do.
i get people dont like the option, but Calhoun has coached in the pros and can put together more than one type of offense.
Any good coach can put together more than one type of offense if the players he has in place calls for it. Calhoun has adapted his offenses to his limitations at Air Force...and is a driving force for his success. Hazell and Shoop didn't do that AT ALL in their time at Purdue and it probably why Purdue saw more success in the 6 games post Hazell than they did at all in the previous 42 under Hazell.
For the life of me, I still can't figure out why Hazell and Shoop tried to make Rob Henry a drop back-traditional QB. Had they run a spread option (like Calhoun), Purdue would have torched people as Henry was a very good running QB with above average athleticism and an ability to throw the ball at a decent percentage. That offense could have given the defense time to rest on the sideline instead of constantly going three and out.
Pretty sure that you and even a nicely potted geranium could out recruit Hazell.
Ha ha! Miles would never have the players at Purdue he had at LSU. Ever!! Purdue needs to create a schematic advantage and until they do they will at best be mediocre.
So 1 article cancels out all other facts of the matter? He's running the option. Call it the Zone Read, The Veer, the Triple Option, its all an option offense. Just in different formations. Like I said in my post. Only difference with what he's running is he's trying to get the tailback more carries than the fullback/QB typically get in the triple option.
Facts of the matter is, he runs the ball. Every single play.
Ohio (Offensive Coordinator - 1997 - 2000)
1997 - Passing attempts a game - 5.9
Rushing attempts a game - 59.0
1998 - Passes a game - 7.7
Rushes a game - 61.8
1999 - Passes a game - 14.7
Rushes a game - 56.7
2000 - Passes a game - 12.2
Rushes a game - 58.7
Wake Forest (Offensive Coordinator 2001-2002)
2001 - Passes a game - 22.9
Rushes a game - 55.4
2002 - Passes a game - 20.9
Rushes a game - 55.2
Air Force (HC 2007 - Present)
2007 - Passes a game - 16.5
Rushes a game - 55.5
2008 - Passes a game - 10.6
Rushes a game - 59.8
2009 - Passes a game - 11.8
Rushes a game - 62.7
2010 - Passes a game - 12.9
Rushes a game - 57.5
2011 - Passes a game - 15.7
Rushes a game - 55.6
2012 - Passes a game - 11.6
Rushes a game - 61.8
2013 - Passes a game -14.5
Rushes a game - 53.1
2014 - Passes a game - 15.8
Rushes a game - 61.2
2015 - Passes a game - 12.1
Rushes a game - 58.4
2016 - Passes a game - 11.7
Rushes a game - 63.8
That's run heavy every single year. You hire Calhoun, you're hiring an option offense. And basically you're taking "The Cradle of QBs" label, taking it out into a cornfield, digging a hole, shooting it in the head, and burying it. Cause it would be dead. May as well tell Blough and Sindelar goodbye. No reason in even keeping them around. Air Force has thrown it 140 times this year total. Blough threw that in total in games versus Iowa, Nebraska, and Penn State (152 attempts).
Solid post. Even if you throw out all his time at the AFA, Wake would be a pretty fair comparison to Purdue. Brohm is a better fit if it comes down to him or Calhoun.
Agreed. We are fortunate to have "The Cradle of QBs" label as a recruiting tool. Why bury it? And like you mentioned, take his Wake years (and those were years they didn't have the personal yet to run the option) and he's still way to run heavy. Ironically, the best year Grobe had at Wake Forest (11-3, ACC Champions) was the year they went to the more to the Spread Offense. Their QB that year ran for -71 yards that year.
And with lesser athletes and throwing the ball rarely he went 9-3 this year...same amount of wins Purdue has had throwing it as often as you pointed out in four seasons.
Who cares about the cradle when it comes to wins?
In a conference that Purdue probably could have won games in. Sorry, but the MWC isn't the B1G...never will be. I'd say IU would probably have had a shot at winning the MWC this season..and they are the second worst team in the East Division. I am guessing Purdue would have won the west division there and probably 2nd in the east behind BSU.
I personally care about the cradle. It's a great recruiting tool. It's what gets us guys like Appleby, Etling, Blough, Sindelar. QB is the most important position in football, and we have an advantage versus most schools in getting guys to come here despite wins.
Wins are important, but I'd rather get a guy that'll utilize a QB instead of making him another runner. And how do we know Calhoun can ever recruit for Purdue? People want to hate on Miles (I'm not a Miles guy, but would take him over Calhoun), but at least Miles would get Big 10 caliber players to come here. Calhoun has recruited for the Air Force, Ohio, and only 2 years at a P5 school (Wake). Are we content to keep settling for 2*/3* guys and playing in bottom feeder Bowls?
You're 100% right. We beat the 3rd best team in the West Division this year (Nevada). I'd gladly play teams like San Jose St, UNLV, Fresno, and Hawaii every year.
Content? No, but how bout we get to some bowls before we worry about anything more.
Curious how you felt about the 2003 team. That was a balanced team that didnt rely on the qb
Your right we need to keep that title,cause we put so many wide outs and tight ends in the pro`s.lol
I might be one of the few, but I'm tired of celebrating any Bowl appearance. There's 41 Bowls nowadays, so 80 teams get Bowls out of 128. I want our culture to change. I want to make regular Jan.1 bowls. Major bowls, not Meineke Car Care Bowls
I would too, but we need to get back to competitive first. We are a long way from 6-6
