No. They used all their eligibility.
Graduate Transfers
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I thought I remembered a Duke or NC player some years ago doing this but I might be mistaken.
Doh..yeah, it's 4 years but if you graduate early, you can transfer immediately or if you happen to have a medical waiver from a short year, continue to play towards that 4 years. Am I right on that?
Yes. That scenario is a grad transfer and it is dependent on your ability to get into a graduate program.
The rule is that you have five years from your first step onto campus as a student (not your first practice, as some believe) to play four years. Grad transfers or grad school does not change this rule. If you do graduate early with a bachelors, then you can transfer or stay at your existing school as long as you continue to be a full-time student working toward a defined graduate degree and not have to sit sit out.
As DDD points out, if a player has eligibility left after graduation, they could also remain with their school as a graduate student and play. Doesn't happen that often with high-profile programs anymore from what I remember. I thought Tim McCormick back in the day was contemplating that with Michigan but ended up leaving and getting drafted in the first round, IIRC.
I’ve wondered about Grady’s situation. Without looking it up, I’m guessing he played mop up minutes in enough games his first couple years to not qualify for a redshirt.
I don't know if you can redshirt if you are a walk-on which he was his first 2 or 3 years.
He's played all four years, New Pal (11 games in '16 and 16 in '17 plus 36 games each of the last two seasons). For his Purdue tenure, he finished 37-87 (42.5%) from 3pt land, almost all of it this year......very respectable.
I don't want to be inaccurate in my answer and there appears to be some lack of clarity which I'm sure is cleared-up somewhere else, but I'm done researching.
It appears
1. that the play 4 of 5 applies to walk-ons
2. whether one is recruited or not may apply, but It's very unclear to me. I am sure Grady was "recruited" based on this definitions:
Recruited: If a college coach calls you more than once, contacts you off campus, pays your expenses to visit the campus, or in Divisions I and II, issues you a National Letter of Intent or a written offer of financial aid, you are considered to be recruited. In Division I, a written offer of financial aid to attend summer school before full-time enrollment does not mean you have been recruited.
You have 5 years to play 4 unless you're granted a waiver for injury in one sport. There has been examples such as Greg Paulus from Duke who played 4 consecutive years at Duke on their basketball team and then as a graduate student played football at Syracuse.
The NCAA could change their rules they simply choose not to do so. It's money that matters and the college game makes a ton off of one and dines
As I understand it, the NBA is doing away with "one and done" so it doesn't really matter what the NCAA does as the student who chooses to go directly from high school would not be under any NCAA rule.
Not totally but I was speaking in historical reference. The one and done rule was welcomed with open arms by the NCAA. BTW as I understand the rule if you are drafted you are done with college ball.
when it comes to egos, and thin skin, I could tell somebody needed a hug. Don't worry, I got your back. Ok you guys, cut Doo Dah Day some slack and don't make him mad!
I like Doo Dah Day so no need for me to cut him any slack. Just sayin
But I’m so old they didn’t let women into the NESEP program back then...Or the Academy or NROTC....darn that’s old!!!
So you're saying you served in the WAVES???But I’m so old they didn’t let women into the NESEP program back then...Or the Academy or NROTC....darn that’s old!!!
I did look at the NESEP list for the early 70's and noted no women - there is a lady I'm almost sure in '74 ... I'll go look if it interests you. I knew several of them from '68 thru '74 as off and on during those years, i sold mobile homes and they all bought mobile homes it seemed. Great credit LOLBut I’m so old they didn’t let women into the NESEP program back then...Or the Academy or NROTC....darn that’s old!!!
Good thing you changed careers. Trailer sales are more lucrative in southern IN.
Well, actually the NESEP was for enlisted going for officer now that I take time to think about it...duh....So that’s not a program I would have been elegible for any way. D3, you know you’re making feel old here, right?
No, the Waves were done away with long before I was commissioned in 1974. I was actually a regular line officer trained for general command, then you did subspecialties with your post grad studies. Navy actually sent me to University of Oklahoma in Norman full time for one of my MA’s and then to Catholic University in DC for my other one. I did that one part time while working in the Pentagon...Later I did the War College Curriculum in Newport but that was when I more Senior....
That's OK. I'm old enough to kid about such things. You and I likely passed each other on campus. I was the guy without a clue at the time. Took me another 14 years to get it trending in the right direction.
I never sold a trailer in my life ... I sold MOBILE HOMES!!! and it paid really well while in school. I did homework in between prospects.
Dang Woman!!! One of my son's went into the AF straight out of HS. He now has a PhD in Computer forensics and speaks and write/reads fluent Arabic. The service is an awesome career if you can get choice of specialty.
You're still four younger than I.Well, actually the NESEP was for enlisted going for officer now that I take time to think about it...duh....So that’s not a program I would have been elegible for any way. D3, you know you’re making feel old here, right?
I worked in tool and die at Alcoa 11-7 and managed to steal 4-6 hours of study time a night. I don't think they have "mobile homes" south of Indy. They're more like Cousin Eddie's RV.
Yeah 5th year in football maybe. You don't get 5 years in a sport unless you Redshirt or sit out a year transfering. In hindsight Grady should have his freshman year but I don't anyone thought he would improve to be a serviceable player.
It really is...Also because of the type of “stuff” I did Uncle Same showed me 41 countries. I really can’t complain, as back then most women did not get those kind of opportunities.
Yes, he may not have that many, but he's seen all of Europe )stationed in GR for three years) and most of N. Africa, Arabia/Middle East (oh, and Afghanistan). Lots of fascinating souvenirs. He was married in Belgium.
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My nieces and nephews thought I was the greatest Aunt ever because of my traveling!!!! Lots of cool Birthday and Christmas presents....lol!
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