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For those of you who voted for Biden/Harris...on a scale of 1-5, with 5 being best

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How do think they have done as leaders of the US, and would you cast the same ballot today. And please explain what they have done that makes you still support them.

And please, leave Trump out of this.

I'd give him a solid 1.
 
How do think they have done as leaders of the US, and would you cast the same ballot today. And please explain what they have done that makes you still support them.

And please, leave Trump out of this.

I'd give him a solid 1.
I see you’re a pretty liberal grader. 😂
 
I knew they wouldn't show up, so I tried to make it easy for them. Nothing from Indy, Builder Bob, none. And we know they're reading this.
You put a caveat on your question but you were trying to make it easy?

For non democrats, the former guy is part of any explanation of a vote for Biden. You just want an argument you can try to control.
 
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You put a caveat on your question but you were trying to make it easy?

For non democrats, the former guy is part of any explanation of a vote for Biden. You just want an argument you can try to control.
So Bob, how would you rate Biden.

Keep in mind, you're not allowed to reference Trump or pedos in your answer.
 
You put a caveat on your question but you were trying to make it easy?

For non democrats, the former guy is part of any explanation of a vote for Biden. You just want an argument you can try to control.
Never did answer my question on oil production in the other thread. He just doesn't want to admit how bad this administration really is...
 
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Go ahead Bob. Bring Trump into it. I knew you'd be the first.
Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
 
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Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
You owe me a $1.
 
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Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
The only Dem I'd vote for would be Manchin. And yes, I'd vote Trump who wasn't my 1st or 2nd choice over any other Dem. By voting against Trump, you and those like you are a huge part of the issues going on today here and in Ukraine.
 
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Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
Still haven't answered the very simple question pedoBob. It's not difficult, even for a simpleton like you.
 
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You put a caveat on your question but you were trying to make it easy?

For non democrats, the former guy is part of any explanation of a vote for Biden. You just want an argument you can try to control.
In other words instead of admitti g that your man is a disaster you try to deflect the conversation… very funny, bobby.
 
How do think they have done as leaders of the US, and would you cast the same ballot today. And please explain what they have done that makes you still support them.

And please, leave Trump out of this.

I'd give him a solid 1.
Why not? I apparently have nothing better to do at the moment than get crapped on by internet message board conservatives.

Am I thrilled with Biden to this point? No. I don't think any reasonable person on either side can honestly say that his administration to this point has been effective. I have been particularly disappointed in the inability to find ways to work across the aisle, though a large part of the blame for that has to be laid at a the chronic obstructionist nature of whichever party happens to be in the minority at any given time.

Would I still cast the same ballot? Without a doubt. And, as much as you would prefer otherwise, a big part of the reason is simply that Biden is not "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread." Whatever his perceived shortcomings, Biden has at least restored a level of respectability to the office. I don't have to worry about waking up in the morning to him doing or saying something stupid and hateful or causing problems with our allies.

Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.

There. Now I will brace for the deluge of criticism and snarky personal attacks that will inevitably come, because that's really the reason you started this thread - to entertain yourself by making fun of people who voted differently than you.
 
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Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.
Make sure you thank God for making sure president potato hasn't accidently launched a nuke when he confuses it for the toilet flushing knob.

Oh and also make sure you ask for forgiveness for voting for a pResident that got 13 Americans killed and that blood is also on your hands. I mean you bring up not being in control of the nation's Military. pResident Bidet certainly isn't.

Tell me, how many wars did Trump get us in again? How many times did Putin invade Ukraine again?

You leftists sure do like to deflect and can't give a straight answer without bringing Trump in somehow.

I also find it very hypocritical that a supposed 'pastor' supports one of the most anti-religious pResident in history.
 
Why not? I apparently have nothing better to do at the moment than get crapped on by internet message board conservatives.

Am I thrilled with Biden to this point? No. I don't think any reasonable person on either side can honestly say that his administration to this point has been effective. I have been particularly disappointed in the inability to find ways to work across the aisle, though a large part of the blame for that has to be laid at a the chronic obstructionist nature of whichever party happens to be in the minority at any given time.

Would I still cast the same ballot? Without a doubt. And, as much as you would prefer otherwise, a big part of the reason is simply that Biden is not "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread." Whatever his perceived shortcomings, Biden has at least restored a level of respectability to the office. I don't have to worry about waking up in the morning to him doing or saying something stupid and hateful or causing problems with our allies.

Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.

There. Now I will brace for the deluge of criticism and snarky personal attacks that will inevitably come, because that's really the reason you started this thread - to entertain yourself by making fun of people who voted differently than you.
Good lord if you don’t think this administration has done more damage to the American people than any other in the history of this country, there is little to say. You are the prime example of a voting base that will continue to destroy our country.
 
In other words instead of admitti g that your man is a disaster you try to deflect the conversation… very funny, bobby.
I've run out of abbreviated cuss words.

Whoever was elected in 2020 was going to face.....

Supply chain problems.
Higher gas prices.
Problems with Omicron and stopping the spread.
Higher inflation.

You can argue the rescue plan pumped too much money into the economy and inflation would be lower, but a stimulus was appropriate.

Oil production was cut due to lack of demand. When that came back with a vengeance, there was less oil for consumption and less oil being produced. Higher prices. When was the last time they were this high.......after the last recession? And all this has nothing to do with a freaking pipeline.

We got out of Afghanistan albeit clumsily.
We actually have an infrastructure law.
Unemployment is at 3.8% but Biden shouldn't get much credit. That was going to happen when we came out of Covid no matter who was president.

Crime is also an issue but that's more on states and cities that have softened too much on incarceration.

Masks and CRT and BLM and Fauci and culture wars are just feed for the crazies.
 
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Bob, recommend you just give him a 1 and get it over with. He is a professional liar and son was so hopped up on dope that Dad can't help now. Even NYT is digging and scratching to get more dirt on him.

The only people who think he is doing a good job are Green New Deal people as prices head well beyond $4/Gallon.

Don't mind seeing less dependence on oil, but between now and 70+ mpg cars & sustaining EVs that don't burn up, we have an economy to take care of. Fuel & Supermarket prices sky rocketing are not what a majority of Americans want. Americans are tired of being called racists at every talking point. Simple as that.

Take liar "PinocchJoe" under one arm, Hunter under the other in head lock fashion and toss their butts off the North lawn front gate at the next election cycle.
 
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Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
"voting for Biden because you didn't like Trump is like eating a dog turd because you don't like broccoli"
 
Why not? I apparently have nothing better to do at the moment than get crapped on by internet message board conservatives.

Am I thrilled with Biden to this point? No. I don't think any reasonable person on either side can honestly say that his administration to this point has been effective. I have been particularly disappointed in the inability to find ways to work across the aisle, though a large part of the blame for that has to be laid at a the chronic obstructionist nature of whichever party happens to be in the minority at any given time.

Would I still cast the same ballot? Without a doubt. And, as much as you would prefer otherwise, a big part of the reason is simply that Biden is not "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread." Whatever his perceived shortcomings, Biden has at least restored a level of respectability to the office. I don't have to worry about waking up in the morning to him doing or saying something stupid and hateful or causing problems with our allies.

Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.

There. Now I will brace for the deluge of criticism and snarky personal attacks that will inevitably come, because that's really the reason you started this thread - to entertain yourself by making fun of people who voted differently than you.
You're just another one of those "at least no more mean tweets"?

And no, Biden has not restored respectability to the offense. There's more jokes about Biden's ineptitude than when Clinton got blown by an intern in the Oval office.
 
Trump is at least part of the reason many people voted for Biden......including republicans. You understand that right? You can't take that out of the equation if you want an accurate answer, which you don't.

Again, you want to keep trump out of it because you would have to admit 70% of America think he's an idiot. Even many of the trumpers here say they won't vote for him again.
Again, what does this have to do with Trump? You were asked to rate Biden, not Trump. So do it, unless you're embarrassed to?
 
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Bob, recommend you just give him a 1 and get it over with. He is a professional liar and son was so hopped up on dope that Dad can't help now. Even NYT is digging and scratching to get more dirt on him.

The only people who think he is doing a good job are Green New Deal people as prices head well beyond $4/Gallon.

Don't mind seeing less dependence on oil, but between now and 70+ mpg cars & sustaining EVs that don't burn up, we have an economy to take care of. Fuel & Supermarket prices sky rocketing are not what a majority of Americans want. Americans are tired of being called racists at every talking point. Simple as that.

Take liar "PinocchJoe" under one arm, Hunter under the other in head lock fashion and toss their butts off the North lawn front gate at the next election cycle.
All I need to see is a trumper calling Biden a liar to know what they're about.
 
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Again, what does this have to do with Trump? You were asked to rate Biden, not Trump. So do it, unless you're embarrassed to?
The question was would anyone still cast the same ballot for Biden today. Yes. If it was trump or Biden today I would absolutely vote the same way. See, it has something to with trump if we're casting ballots again. Read the OP again if necessary.

I also answered the second part of the question.
 
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Yes. If it was trump or Biden today I would absolutely vote the same way.
Well if nothing else, at least you finally admit you have TDS and prefer the country in ruin. I mean the rest of us knew you thought that anyway, but you vote on nothing but what your party tells you to do and not based on anything factual.
 
Why not? I apparently have nothing better to do at the moment than get crapped on by internet message board conservatives.

Am I thrilled with Biden to this point? No. I don't think any reasonable person on either side can honestly say that his administration to this point has been effective. I have been particularly disappointed in the inability to find ways to work across the aisle, though a large part of the blame for that has to be laid at a the chronic obstructionist nature of whichever party happens to be in the minority at any given time.

Would I still cast the same ballot? Without a doubt. And, as much as you would prefer otherwise, a big part of the reason is simply that Biden is not "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread." Whatever his perceived shortcomings, Biden has at least restored a level of respectability to the office. I don't have to worry about waking up in the morning to him doing or saying something stupid and hateful or causing problems with our allies.

Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.

There. Now I will brace for the deluge of criticism and snarky personal attacks that will inevitably come, because that's really the reason you started this thread - to entertain yourself by making fun of people who voted differently than you.
So in other words, you couldn't handle the "mean tweets"...

And does "respectability" come with a son who's a walking scandal using his dad's office for leverage and to enrich the family? Or does it come with a man who can't talk without a teleprompter? Because I don't see much respectability in anything he's doing right now.

And BTW, I really hope Trump doesn't get elected in the next primary. We need someone in office who actually knows how to run a business. I'm still incredibly disappointed that Mitch Daniels never ran for President...
 
All I need to see is a trumper calling Biden a liar to know what they're about.
Because Biden has never lied….good one. I’m still trying to figure out why all of the “Fact checkers” were fired by Biden
 
Because Biden has never lied….good one. I’m still trying to figure out why all of the “Fact checkers” were fired by Biden
Didn't say that and you know it. I'm saying comparing them as liars is a joke. Have you people just forgotten how he lied on a daily basis? Or you just dismiss it because it was only to make himself look better ......or it was just exaggeration? No big deal? Or, he just has problems admitting mistakes or he was wrong or he lost.......which is another major character flaw. A freaking year and a half lying about an election and refuses to admit it. Yeah, I want THAT guy as president.
 
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Didn't say that and you know it. I'm saying comparing them as liars is a joke. Have you people just forgotten how he lied on a daily basis? Or you just dismiss it because it was only to make himself look better ......or it was just exaggeration? No big deal? Or, he just has problems admitting mistakes or he was wrong or he lost.......which is another major character flaw. A freaking year and a half lying about an election and refuses to admit it. Yeah, I want THAT guy as president.
I’ll take the mean tweet liar guy over this destroy America democratic movement in a heartbeat. Again I didn’t vote for either one in the last election. I’ll admit that I made a mistake.
 
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All I need to see is a trumper calling Biden a liar to know what they're about.
Giving credit where credit is due to a left leaning publication:
"This is what destroys presidencies – when people decide you are a liar, it is hard to regain that trust. Biden has lied so frequently and so obviously that he’s in a true political danger zone"

I'm not a Trumper. I held my nose and voted for him as I did like most of the policies. He is an arrogant man that often got in his own way with too much much bullying and that turned off a load of people. Simple as that. Not near the liar that PinocchiJoe does nearly every time he opens his mouth.
 
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Giving credit where credit is due to a left leaning publication:
"This is what destroys presidencies – when people decide you are a liar, it is hard to regain that trust. Biden has lied so frequently and so obviously that he’s in a true political danger zone"

I'm not a Trumper. I held my nose and voted for him as I did like most of the policies. He is an arrogant man that often got in his own way with too much much bullying and that turned off a load of people. Simple as that. Not near the liar that PinocchiJoe does nearly every time he opens his mouth.
An opinion column from a Republican adviser. It's right at the bottom of the article. Well done.

Scott Jennings is a Republican adviser, CNN political contributor and partner at RunSwitch Public Relations.
 
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I've run out of abbreviated cuss words.

Whoever was elected in 2020 was going to face.....

Supply chain problems.
Higher gas prices.
Problems with Omicron and stopping the spread.
Higher inflation.

You can argue the rescue plan pumped too much money into the economy and inflation would be lower, but a stimulus was appropriate.

Oil production was cut due to lack of demand. When that came back with a vengeance, there was less oil for consumption and less oil being produced. Higher prices. When was the last time they were this high.......after the last recession? And all this has nothing to do with a freaking pipeline.

We got out of Afghanistan albeit clumsily.
We actually have an infrastructure law.
Unemployment is at 3.8% but Biden shouldn't get much credit. That was going to happen when we came out of Covid no matter who was president.

Crime is also an issue but that's more on states and cities that have softened too much on incarceration.

Masks and CRT and BLM and Fauci and culture wars are just feed for the crazies.
Your quote about our withdrawal from Afghanistan is moot until we bring all of our folks home. Last I heard on that is there are still over 2000 Americans still left behind. And how great it would be to have those planes, tanks, armored vehicles, and surface to air armament in the hands of the Ukrainian soldiers.

Biden is an absolute disaster in every facet. He's laughed everywhere.
 
Didn't say that and you know it. I'm saying comparing them as liars is a joke. Have you people just forgotten how he lied on a daily basis? Or you just dismiss it because it was only to make himself look better ......or it was just exaggeration? No big deal? Or, he just has problems admitting mistakes or he was wrong or he lost.......which is another major character flaw. A freaking year and a half lying about an election and refuses to admit it. Yeah, I want THAT guy as president.
I don’t go parading around stating that Trump didn’t lie. Acting like Biden doesn’t lie is laughable.

If I recall correctly, you used to criticize those who used to “what about” when Trump was in office, well, now you are doing with Biden.

BTW, what mistakes has Biden acknowledged. Is that a character flaw for Joe?

Remember when Joe essentially declared victory over COVID? Link below

I would rather have some someone who lied about losing an election running an economy versus the clown show we have today whose climate change agenda has put us at mercy of our sworn enemies begging for oil.

“Minor incursion” Joe.

Hey Bob, is it still a “minor incursion” In Ukraine?
 
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Your quote about our withdrawal from Afghanistan is moot until we bring all of our folks home. Last I heard on that is there are still over 2000 Americans still left behind. And how great it would be to have those planes, tanks, armored vehicles, and surface to air armament in the hands of the Ukrainian soldiers.

Biden is an absolute disaster in every facet. He's laughed everywhere.
Link me to all the stories about Americans that want to come home and can't get out. All the ones being murdered and raped. Gotta be something on Fox....

The equipment argument is a joke. When troops died trying to retrieve a Bradley you'd be whining that we should have just left it behind. Next you will tell me we left 80 billion dollars worth there.

How did trump do getting out during his 4 year term?
 
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Link me to all the stories about Americans that want to come home and can't get out. All the ones being murdered and raped. Gotta be something on Fox....

The equipment argument is a joke. When troops died trying to retrieve a Bradley you'd be whining that we should have just left it behind. Next you will tell me we left 80 billion dollars worth there.

How did trump do getting out during his 4 year term?
 
Why not? I apparently have nothing better to do at the moment than get crapped on by internet message board conservatives.

Am I thrilled with Biden to this point? No. I don't think any reasonable person on either side can honestly say that his administration to this point has been effective. I have been particularly disappointed in the inability to find ways to work across the aisle, though a large part of the blame for that has to be laid at a the chronic obstructionist nature of whichever party happens to be in the minority at any given time.

Would I still cast the same ballot? Without a doubt. And, as much as you would prefer otherwise, a big part of the reason is simply that Biden is not "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread." Whatever his perceived shortcomings, Biden has at least restored a level of respectability to the office. I don't have to worry about waking up in the morning to him doing or saying something stupid and hateful or causing problems with our allies.

Most of all, I thank God every day that right now, "He Who Shall Not Be Named in This Thread" is not in control of our nation's military.

There. Now I will brace for the deluge of criticism and snarky personal attacks that will inevitably come, because that's really the reason you started this thread - to entertain yourself by making fun of people who voted differently than you.
You are a great example of why I view pastors and missionaries as the most worthles speople on earth, You get pd because you tell people how to live and then ask them for money to pay you meanwhile your place of business is exempt from property tax and they probably provide your housing as well. Right after politics its the biggest scam in the country
 
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