Announced Monday he is down to Auburn, Duke, Kansas and Michigan. Indiana seemed to lose steam on him lately. I think we did also, but much earlier with other directions apparent.
Flory Bidunga
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He will get a large payday, not a game that Purdue is playing for incoming recruits at this point. He’s a great talent but I’m not sure that he’ll be better as a freshman than a senior Caleb Furst. Maybe that’s sour grapes on my end.
I agree about the pay-play and most likely a reason that Auburn is in the four.
Possibly, but Pearl has spent a lot of time in Kokomo developing that relationship. I don't trust the guy considering his history all the way back to the Deon Thomas scandal; however, he's a charasmatic guy that people seem to like.
From what I've heard out of Kokomo Bidgunga comes from a wealthy family and he's likely not chasing a high NIL deal.
Love it or hate it, paying for players is the new reality of big time college athletics.
surprised Cincy didn't make the cut, still glad we got Burgess
Yeah because wealthy people don't chase more millions
I get that everyone just assumes the worst on anonymous message boards, but nobody on here really knows the kid or what his desires are. Sure, the NIL money is nice for anyone regardless of financial situation, but he may not be making his choice based on which school offers the highest NIL.
Would be surprised if "Bid" doesn't start. And would be much more surprised if he didn't have a better year than Furst. Not really a high bar though. Still think our 4 year Burgess will be more productive long term.
Edit....did not see "senior" @ this point, that could be if CF improves.
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I always wanted Flory to be our supreme rim protector...but NIL precluded Purdue. It will be interesting where he ends up and how he develops at the next level. I wish him the best whichever college he chooses.
A lineup of Catchings, Colvin, Harris (Boiler Up, Harris) and Burgess (PG, SG, WF, PF) will be fun to watch. Who fills the center position? Any word on the recruit who visited from Texas?
A lineup of Catchings, Colvin, Harris (Boiler Up, Harris) and Burgess (PG, SG, WF, PF) will be fun to watch. Who fills the center position? Any word on the recruit who visited from Texas?
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It's too bad all of these big time schools like Auburn and Farleigh Dickinson can pay for play. Purdue cranks out a lot of grads who can't find work I guess. Doesn't help being in the smallest athletic conference in the world either.
I'm pretty indifferent. As many others have said, it's mostly making what was below the table payments above board now, at least with incoming freshmen.
I also think you have to be pretty smart about your approach to be successful. I'd much rather fill gaps with purchased players and pay to keep my top producers than have a team assembled off of NIL.
I don't really care where they spend their money as long as it's on top talent. The new reality is that you'll likely have a couple players a year or did well at lower level/non-P5 schools, but proved they could play and can now go into free agency as an instant starter/impact player at a contender.
Engineers, Midwesterners and conservatives are all by their nature frugal. Purdue gets and cranks out all 3. I remember during the height of the Tiller years we'd have folks come by the tailgate looking for tickets and then asking how much you were asking for them (with a bitter beer look when you said "face"). And there are grad millionaires, but their do-rey-me goes to building projects, endowments and schollies (something they can put their name on/to).
And Auburn is the apparent winner. Curious to hear he backstory. Supposedly up until a week or so ago he was 100% Duke.
Auburn has a lot of behind the scenes money. I used to work at their Center for Disabilities. Their boosters have paid for many coaches buyouts, and other things. Need money? Here is the number to call. Some things don’t change!
Purdue and its alumni/fan base really needs to find a better balance and not remain enslaved to this over-conservative psyche if it wants to ascend.
Depends on what you define as success?
Enslaved? For me, a simple conservative debt free life, with Jesus and my Boiler family (6 grads and more coming) with a chance to root for a top 5 Purdue this year and last, well I find enjoyment & happiness in all that. So count me as a poster boy for that enslaved over conservative mindset, I guess? But works for me.
I didn’t say success. I said to ascend.
Not losing to double digit seeds at a ridiculous rate and breaking through to a final four, in my opinion, would qualify as ascension.
I’m not saying drop all conservative values. Just hoping for greater equilibrium.
I don't disagree, but how do you do it? Speaking as one of those conservatives, I remember myself and my buddies asking the waitress at Pete's for our tip back so that we could buy one more round (and she was kind enough to do it...based on promises of bigger tips at later visits). We are all are still making money but I'm the only one I know of that gives $$$ to the University.
Well, I think we’re *maybe* already seeing a shift? The way Purdue was able to leverage NIL to reward and keep Edey around might be an example of a willingness to deviate from norms.
There seemed to have been this mentality that Purdue was above leveraging NIL and/or playing in that space; I’m not calling for Purdue to abandon its morals or sell-out, but it’s nice to see Purdue’s willingness to find a middle-ground.
Also, recruiting and coaching. You could argue there may have been too much emphasis on back to the basket big men, along with slower (albeit skilled) “coach’s kids” guards and not enough versatile bigs and guards who can create their own shot.
Hopefully Purdue and CMP continue to evolve and don’t allow their own egos to trap them into a single way of thinking.
A tough choice! Give my money to st Jude or cancer research or give to some basketball player so some crazed Purdue fan can be happy about making the final four! I received an education at Purdue! It taught me life and people’s rights arE more important than athletics! These are not conservative values! I give 20-25% tips to people making minimum wages! A basketball player already receives a full scholarship and room and board and uniforms and shoes! Lots of shoes! I guess that’s not enough? I had a full load of 18 credits every semester and worked 20 hours a week and had loans that took me over 20 years to pay off! And you believe I should give generously to some athlete so he chooses Purdue over Auburn? If he’s going to Auburn, he’s not going to college to seek an education. And you still want me to give him money? That’s as stupid as giving a billionaire money to pay his court fees so he doesn’t have to spend any of his own money!
Winner, winner...Jayhawk dinner!
With the supporting class that the Jayhawks can bring in...Flory will win a National Championship while at Kansas.
With the supporting class that the Jayhawks can bring in...Flory will win a National Championship while at Kansas.
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They have that one year to do it then! I would assume Dickinson sticks around next year…that’s a pretty damn good front court, if so.
Yep one year.
I wonder what the salary of the top 7 guys will be @ Kansas who naturally embraces NIL pay to play as NIL just legalizes what they likely were doing years before. Now that the competition is paying more, KS really had to step up the dollars I imagine. Those top 7, with the top 1-2+ as millionaires, creates an interesting dynamic I am sure.
Politically and fiscally, I'm conservative, but when it comes to college athletics, I say, spend money like a drunken sailor!
Welp, I guess that sort of debunks that myth that Purdue has disadvantages in recruiting that other schools don't (location, weather, student body, no beach, blah, blah, blah)
I had a roomate once at Purdue who was from Memphis. Granted, he's the only person from Memphis I've ever talked to. But, he told me Auburn was a school that a lot of wealthy kids go to. No idea if that stereotype is true, but it definately seems like it when it comes to the amount of money their boosters throw around at athletics. Plus, a lot of SEC schools are becoming more "national". I think people woulld be surprised by the amount of NE and Midwest HS grads that go to schools like Alabama.
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Not sure that this validates any argument about recruiting disadvantages. Kansas has a great location, good academic reputation, and a beautiful campus. As much as I like Purdue as an institution, our campus pales when compared to places like Kansas. They also have a great snake oil salesman for a coach, and an easy path through their academics for athletes. Purdue, not so much.
I wouldn't call Bill Self a "snake oil" salesman. Bruce Pearl, yes. Bill Self is a top COACH in college basketball, not just a good bag dropper.
Lawrence Kansas is no better than W Lafayette. Plus, it's in Kansas......
Academics? Come on....Purdue's rep far outweighs KU.
Beautiful campus? It's fine. Nothing special
But, non of that matters to a top athlete who will be in school 2, maybe 3 years.
I will give you that Self is a great recruiter. Not sure about the snakeoil comment. Not sure what that means. Maybe Painter should learn to sell snakeoil if it helps land top talent.
Your comment about Flory’s school of choice somehow “proving” that Purdue isn't disadvantaged in recruiting did make sense. You walk through KU then walk through Purdue and you will understand the difference. By the way, I did not say Kansas was equal to Purdue academically. That is something you invented.
Do you really think these players care about what the campus looks like? You think they're out strolling in their free time? No. They go between the gym and their apartment
My brother in law is a professor at Kansas, I've been to their campus many times and it is nothing to write home about and there is nothing in Lawrence. True, it is an hour from Kansas City, but Purdue's campus is much nicer and Indy is just down the road. Academics are not the reason either, Purdue is definitely not second fiddle to KU. Bill Self is a notorius cheater. YOu don't remember the "institutional out of control" verdict he just rec'd from the NCAA and then got a slap on the wrist. He has been caught multiple times with recruiting violations.
Are you saying he is a bit of a snake oil salesman? Maybe just a cheater over all.
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