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just no excuse for Kansas to get owned like that with their talent. They need a March Coach - fo sho.
 
just no excuse for Kansas to get owned like that with their talent. They need a March Coach - fo sho.
Bill Self looks like the sleazy guy who still wears plaid shirts with his bright blue leisure suits selling you a car at the buy here/pay here lot on the corner. Other than IU, there may not be another team or coach I'd rather see get humiliated. The best team won.
 
Self must go! He is at an elite basketball program and recruits some of the top talent in the country. Yet he has only gone all the way one time!!! Kansas fans are like The Settlers in that DirecTV commercial. By now they know what they have in Self and it is just not good enough. Come on!! High risk, high reward!!!
 
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Hey, thanks for bringing up Bill Self. Let's compare his record to Painter's. Shall we?

Well, a quick look at Wikipedia tells me that he coached at Tulsa for three years, Tulsa for God's sake, and in those three years he got Tulsa to an Elite 8, something that Painter hasn't done in 11 years at Purdue. TULSA!

Then he went to Illinois for three years, Won 2 Big Ten Championships (one more than Painter in ... what was it again... so yeah, 11 years). And he got them to an Elite 8 appearance. Remind me again, what coach has never gotten his team to an Elite Eight before.... hmmm, let me think?

At Kansas, he has been to four Elite Eights, I counted two Final Fours, and a National Championship.

I know Kansas fans are disappointed in this year's March Madness, but let's compare their March to a Purdue fan's March.

Let's say, more or less, that March Madness started on that Thursday at Noon.

For a Purdue fan, the true excitement of March was over by 7:30 Thursday. That's it. It was done. We got to enjoy 7 and 1/2 hours of March Madness.

For a Kansas fan, they made it to the first weekend. Two days, 48 hours of March excitement. Then they won over the weekend, and now they make it to the Sweet Sixteen. We at Purdue have been long dead, but the Jayhawk fans are lovin' it. They win again and make now to late Saturday night, where they do lose. But still the Kansas fans get 9 and 1/2 days, (24 hours in a day), more days of March Madness excitement than Purdue fans got hours of enjoyment. They made an Elite Eight (we know how many of those Painter and Purdue have been to). How many years do we have to go back total before Painter won 3 games total in the NCAA? Five or six years? More than that?

Hey, here's an idea: when someone else loses on this Sunday night, please post a "Fire Whomever" thread. And I will go to Wikipedia again and compare his record to Painter's. I wonder how Painter will do in comparison?

You keep wanting to imply that fan's are over-reacting to one loss in the tournament, and I keep telling you, that bad as that was, it was the CBI loss at home and then the last place finish, not one tourney loss.
 
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Hey, thanks for bringing up Bill Self. Let's compare his record to Painter's. Shall we?

Well, a quick look at Wikipedia tells me that he coached at Tulsa for three years, Tulsa for God's sake, and in those three years he got Tulsa to an Elite 8, something that Painter hasn't done in 11 years at Purdue. TULSA!

Then he went to Illinois for three years, Won 2 Big Ten Championships (one more than Painter in ... what was it again... so yeah, 11 years). And he got them to an Elite 8 appearance. Remind me again, what coach has never gotten his team to an Elite Eight before.... hmmm, let me think?

At Kansas, he has been to four Elite Eights, I counted two Final Fours, and a National Championship.

I know Kansas fans are disappointed in this year's March Madness, but let's compare their March to a Purdue fan's March.

Let's say, more or less, that March Madness started on that Thursday at Noon.

For a Purdue fan, the true excitement of March was over by 7:30 Thursday. That's it. It was done. We got to enjoy 7 and 1/2 hours of March Madness.

For a Kansas fan, they made it to the first weekend. Two days, 48 hours of March excitement. Then they won over the weekend, and now they make it to the Sweet Sixteen. We at Purdue have been long dead, but the Jayhawk fans are lovin' it. They win again and make now to late Saturday night, where they do lose. But still the Kansas fans get 9 and 1/2 days, (24 hours in a day), more days of March Madness excitement than Purdue fans got hours of enjoyment. They made an Elite Eight (we know how many of those Painter and Purdue have been to). How many years do we have to go back total before Painter won 3 games total in the NCAA? Five or six years? More than that?

Hey, here's an idea: when someone else loses on this Sunday night, please post a "Fire Whomever" thread. And I will go to Wikipedia again and compare his record to Painter's. I wonder how Painter will do in comparison?

You keep wanting to imply that fan's are over-reacting to one loss in the tournament, and I keep telling you, that bad as that was, it was the CBI loss at home and then the last place finish, not one tourney loss.

And the best part, the best part is that NO ONE of any true consequence in the Purdue control structure gives a shit .
I'm sure CMP wants to do better,however, his 12 years as a head coach reveals the genuine limitations of his overall coaching ability.
Yes 12 , don't forget about SIU.
 
Painter has made it to two Sweet Sixteens in all of his years here. Unacceptable.
So 1.5 weeks after the game, your first post is to ask if Edwards explained why he held the ball at the end of the game. And you call him a buffoon. The answer was that he was unaware. Just like you were unaware that the answer has been all over the web since the end of the game 1.5 weeks ago. And this is your second post? Baffoon troll.
 
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Hey, thanks for bringing up Bill Self. Let's compare his record to Painter's. Shall we?

Well, a quick look at Wikipedia tells me that he coached at Tulsa for three years, Tulsa for God's sake, and in those three years he got Tulsa to an Elite 8, something that Painter hasn't done in 11 years at Purdue. TULSA!

Then he went to Illinois for three years, Won 2 Big Ten Championships (one more than Painter in ... what was it again... so yeah, 11 years). And he got them to an Elite 8 appearance. Remind me again, what coach has never gotten his team to an Elite Eight before.... hmmm, let me think?

At Kansas, he has been to four Elite Eights, I counted two Final Fours, and a National Championship.

I know Kansas fans are disappointed in this year's March Madness, but let's compare their March to a Purdue fan's March.

Let's say, more or less, that March Madness started on that Thursday at Noon.

For a Purdue fan, the true excitement of March was over by 7:30 Thursday. That's it. It was done. We got to enjoy 7 and 1/2 hours of March Madness.

For a Kansas fan, they made it to the first weekend. Two days, 48 hours of March excitement. Then they won over the weekend, and now they make it to the Sweet Sixteen. We at Purdue have been long dead, but the Jayhawk fans are lovin' it. They win again and make now to late Saturday night, where they do lose. But still the Kansas fans get 9 and 1/2 days, (24 hours in a day), more days of March Madness excitement than Purdue fans got hours of enjoyment. They made an Elite Eight (we know how many of those Painter and Purdue have been to). How many years do we have to go back total before Painter won 3 games total in the NCAA? Five or six years? More than that?

Hey, here's an idea: when someone else loses on this Sunday night, please post a "Fire Whomever" thread. And I will go to Wikipedia again and compare his record to Painter's. I wonder how Painter will do in comparison?

You keep wanting to imply that fan's are over-reacting to one loss in the tournament, and I keep telling you, that bad as that was, it was the CBI loss at home and then the last place finish, not one tourney loss.

Why does everything have to be about Painter? We are talking about Self and how Kansas fans settle on him. It's like some of you guys don't even watch basketball outside of Purdue and don't know who the other coaches are!
 
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8 years ago. How long are they going to let him live off that? They should win one every few years at a minimum but they are like The Settlers. You know. Like the DirecTV commercial?

No I dont know the commercial. I skip all of them.

And he can ride on it for 80 years as far as I am concerned. Because he will always have that title National Champion
 
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Well to be fair, these threads are no different than all the fire Painter threads that were here imo...

Actually, they're completely different. People like Tommy Coverdale 4 three make these threads to say fire a National Championship winning coach, or at least final 4 and elite coaches. Painter is nowhere near an elite coach and has never even sniffed a final 4. To make these threads about Self or Calipari or even Crean is asinine when you compare their resume to CMP's. Yes, even Crean has more B1G championships and sweet 16's in less time at IU, not to mention a final 4 before coming to IU.
 
Actually, they're completely different. People like Tommy Coverdale 4 three make these threads to say fire a National Championship winning coach, or at least final 4 and elite coaches. Painter is nowhere near an elite coach and has never even sniffed a final 4. To make these threads about Self or Calipari or even Crean is asinine when you compare their resume to CMP's. Yes, even Crean has more B1G championships and sweet 16's in less time at IU, not to mention a final 4 before coming to IU.
All the posts clamoring for CMP to be fired are just like these threads calling for other coaches to be fired because the coaches in question all had the same thing happen to them that you whiners complain about. I understand it directly refutes all the points you emotional people try to make, but it doesn't change the fact that they are the same. Sorry they blow your argument up. but it's a fact. You know I'm right, I know I'm right and it's not even debatable.
 
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just no excuse for Kansas to get owned like that with their talent. They need a March Coach - fo sho.

On a more serious note...

One thing interesting about Kansas....late in the game they mentioned Kansas had 0 bench points (with like 2 minutes left). That's incredible.

It makes you wonder if these teams that are set-up to turn over every couple years (that don't typically have much depth) are that great for an NCAA Tournament run. They have to be gassed late in the season. Obviously some of these types of teams have won the tournament before - some teams like this are incredibly talented - but many of them do not do anywhere as good as you'd expect.
 
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All the posts clamoring for CMP to be fired are just like these threads calling for other coaches to be fired because the coaches in question all had the same thing happen to them that you whiners complain about. I understand it directly refutes all the points you emotional people try to make, but it doesn't change the fact that they are the same. Sorry they blow your argument up. but it's a fact. You know I'm right, I know I'm right and it's not even debatable.

You are right. I know it. You know it. They know it even though they will never admit it.
 
Fire the dipshit who keeps creating these threads. YOU AREN'T FUNNY BRO.
I hate that all us Purdoodoo fans are a bunch of settlers... They call me, 'Settly Westy' down at ye' ol' peach basket games. I love that commercial. Have you guys seen it? Where the people who don't have DirecTV are settlers because they settle for basic cable. That's us Purdont'ers to a T. We settle for Matt Painter (Cable TV) Love that commercial.
 
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All the posts clamoring for CMP to be fired are just like these threads calling for other coaches to be fired because the coaches in question all had the same thing happen to them that you whiners complain about. I understand it directly refutes all the points you emotional people try to make, but it doesn't change the fact that they are the same. Sorry they blow your argument up. but it's a fact. You know I'm right, I know I'm right and it's not even debatable.

None of this makes sense. Please refute the fact that Self is accomplished and CMP is not. That is a fact. You will cry about whiners and emotional people, but argue why Self and CMP are even in the same conversation... go ahead and try. I'm not making a knee-jerk reaction to Painter sucking it up again this year in the tournament, and I don't see others doing that either. What I do see is looking at 11 years, 1 shared B1G championship and 2 s16's... a body of work that points to a pretty low ceiling. Let's hear your brilliant "facts" that are "not even debatable" on how that compares to Self. I can't wait for you to "blow my argument up".
 
None of this makes sense. Please refute the fact that Self is accomplished and CMP is not. That is a fact. You will cry about whiners and emotional people, but argue why Self and CMP are even in the same conversation... go ahead and try. I'm not making a knee-jerk reaction to Painter sucking it up again this year in the tournament, and I don't see others doing that either. What I do see is looking at 11 years, 1 shared B1G championship and 2 s16's... a body of work that points to a pretty low ceiling. Let's hear your brilliant "facts" that are "not even debatable" on how that compares to Self. I can't wait for you to "blow my argument up".
What I said made complete sense. I get it, you're a little slow so what I recommend is going back and re-reading all the things that have already been told to you and pretty much proven every point you have made to be inaccurate.

So a coach that had a top 10 team and a 20+ win season has a low ceiling? Yeah, that shows right there that you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, it's not even debatable anymore. You've been exposed with your knee-jerk emotional observations. You complain because it works on your Xbox so it must work in real life. Again, you have zero credibility, your argument has thus been nuked and as usual I am right about you and all the others.

Man that was easy exposing you.
 
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Actually, they're completely different. People like Tommy Coverdale 4 three make these threads to say fire a National Championship winning coach, or at least final 4 and elite coaches. Painter is nowhere near an elite coach and has never even sniffed a final 4. To make these threads about Self or Calipari or even Crean is asinine when you compare their resume to CMP's. Yes, even Crean has more B1G championships and sweet 16's in less time at IU, not to mention a final 4 before coming to IU.
Disagree. To someone that is essentially down the middle, both series of those threads are ridiculous but for different reasons.
 
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Just curious. Did you agree with the decision when Purdue let Keady go?

Yes. It was at the end of his contract and he had only 1 NCAA tournament and 2 NIT tournaments in his last 5 years as well as a 31-49 conference record over his last 5 seasons if I'm not mistaken. He was also closing in on 70 years old.
 
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What I said made complete sense. I get it, you're a little slow so what I recommend is going back and re-reading all the things that have already been told to you and pretty much proven every point you have made to be inaccurate.

So a coach that had a top 10 team and a 20+ win season has a low ceiling? Yeah, that shows right there that you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, it's not even debatable anymore. You've been exposed with your knee-jerk emotional observations. You complain because it works on your Xbox so it must work in real life. Again, you have zero credibility, your argument has thus been nuked and as usual I am right about you and all the others.

Man that was easy exposing you.

Nice work. Not sure I've ever seen someone so thoroughly embarrass someone else like that on this board before. Loved the Xbox comment. So true.
 
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Holy crappers this will be my favorite banner ever! Talk about settling. High risk high reward only! I suggest we hire Chip Kelly just to shake things up. I think that's super high risk so it must reap high reward. Purdue basketball is on the rise baby!
 
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What I said made complete sense. I get it, you're a little slow so what I recommend is going back and re-reading all the things that have already been told to you and pretty much proven every point you have made to be inaccurate.

So a coach that had a top 10 team and a 20+ win season has a low ceiling? Yeah, that shows right there that you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, it's not even debatable anymore. You've been exposed with your knee-jerk emotional observations. You complain because it works on your Xbox so it must work in real life. Again, you have zero credibility, your argument has thus been nuked and as usual I am right about you and all the others.

Man that was easy exposing you.

Exactly as I thought. You can't compare Self and Painter or any of these other "Fire ___" threads with CMP, so please stop talking.
 
Disagree. To someone that is essentially down the middle, both series of those threads are ridiculous but for different reasons.

You may think they are both ridiculous, and that's a valid opinion, but that doesn't mean that firing Self who has Final 4's and a National Championship to his name is on the same level as firing a 2x Sweet 16 appearance coach.
 
Exactly as I thought. You can't compare Self and Painter or any of these other "Fire ___" threads with CMP, so please stop talking.
Exactly what I thought. You as usual completely miss the point where you dolts are whining about CMP yet other coaches have the same issues and you give them a pass. Sorry, you can't have it both ways. So, take your own advice and just stop talking as these things are light years above your head. In fact, since it's pretty much a given now that I am better than you, just stop posting here completely. I mean if you can give those ultimatums so can others right? Or is that just more of the same old it-doesn't-apply-to-me-because-it-deflates-my-argument stuff we've grown used to seeing from you? You have zero credibility anymore and I am glad I was able to help prove that even further.

See that is the problem with arguing with you clueless idiots, you never know when you have been beaten.
 
You may think they are both ridiculous, and that's a valid opinion, but that doesn't mean that firing Self who has Final 4's and a National Championship to his name is on the same level as firing a 2x Sweet 16 appearance coach.
I wasn't comparing any coaches, hence why I said both thread series are ridiculous for different reasons.

I will say this, there is a bit of hypocrisy in both types of threads. Which is probably the only thing they both have in common.
 
What I said made complete sense. I get it, you're a little slow so what I recommend is going back and re-reading all the things that have already been told to you and pretty much proven every point you have made to be inaccurate.

So a coach that had a top 10 team and a 20+ win season has a low ceiling? Yeah, that shows right there that you have no idea what you are talking about. Again, it's not even debatable anymore. You've been exposed with your knee-jerk emotional observations. You complain because it works on your Xbox so it must work in real life. Again, you have zero credibility, your argument has thus been nuked and as usual I am right about you and all the others.

Man that was easy exposing you.
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