Fauxchahontas and Her "Accountable Capitalism Act"

[SDBoiler1]

This act doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting passed, but it's interesting to see her veer so far left, running like a Democratic Socialist. It may appeal to hardcore Progressives, but that's about it.

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/warren-democratic-socialist-agenda/

Under her proposed act, "American corporations with more than $1 billion in annual revenue must obtain a federal charter from a newly formed Office of United States Corporations. . . . The new federal charter obligates company directors to consider the interests of all corporate stakeholders — including employees, customers, shareholders, and the communities in which the company operates."

This means a company has to get the permission of this new government agency to be formed.
Warren's act also:

• Requires "a United States corporation" to "ensure that no fewer than 40% of its directors are selected by the corporation's employees."
• "Restricts the sales of company shares by the directors and officers of United States corporations."
• "Prohibits United States corporations from making any political expenditures without the approval of 75% of its directors and shareholders."
• "Permits the federal government to revoke the charter of a United States corporation if the company has engaged in repeated and egregious illegal conduct."

 

[BoilermakerD]

This act doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting passed, but it's interesting to see her veer so far left, running like a Democratic Socialist. It may appeal to hardcore Progressives, but that's about it.

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/warren-democratic-socialist-agenda/

Under her proposed act, "American corporations with more than $1 billion in annual revenue must obtain a federal charter from a newly formed Office of United States Corporations. . . . The new federal charter obligates company directors to consider the interests of all corporate stakeholders — including employees, customers, shareholders, and the communities in which the company operates."

This means a company has to get the permission of this new government agency to be formed.
Warren's act also:

• Requires "a United States corporation" to "ensure that no fewer than 40% of its directors are selected by the corporation's employees."
• "Restricts the sales of company shares by the directors and officers of United States corporations."
• "Prohibits United States corporations from making any political expenditures without the approval of 75% of its directors and shareholders."
• "Permits the federal government to revoke the charter of a United States corporation if the company has engaged in repeated and egregious illegal conduct."

This is extremely offensive. Do you mind not likening her to Pocahontas? You can not like her politics without that. You do realize this is no different than calling a black politician Uncle Ben or aunt Jamima, right?

 

[ecouch]

This is extremely offensive. Do you mind not likening her to Pocahontas? You can not like her politics without that. You do realize this is no different than calling a black politician Uncle Ben or aunt Jamima, right?

What do you call Shaun King?

Talcum X is quite funny.

I'll leave it to you as to figure out why your analogy doesn't work.

 

[SDBoiler1]

This is extremely offensive. Do you mind not likening her to Pocahontas? You can not like her politics without that. You do realize this is no different than calling a black politician Uncle Ben or aunt Jamima, right?

She cannot or will not show she has any Cherokee blood. An actual Cherokee geneologist in Oklahoma has gone on record saying there is zero evidence that Warren’s family has any Cherokee ancestry whatsoever.

 

[SDBoiler1]

This is extremely offensive. Do you mind not likening her to Pocahontas? You can not like her politics without that. You do realize this is no different than calling a black politician Uncle Ben or aunt Jamima, right?

Offensive to whom? So sorry, I’m going to call her whatever I want.

 

[BoilermakerD]

What do you call Shaun King?

Talcum X is quite funny.

I'll leave it to you as to figure out why your analogy doesn't work.

Wow, just when you think you’ve run into all of them... wooey

 

[mk_peters]

She cannot or will not show she has any Cherokee blood. An actual Cherokee geneologist in Oklahoma has gone on record saying there is zero evidence that Warren’s family has any Cherokee ancestry whatsoever.

Why do you care? Who gives a ****?

 

[BoilermakerD]

Offensive to whom? So sorry, I’m going to call her whatever I want.

Probably most Hispanic people bro.. I’m sure you will from behind your monitor. Go ahead and shoot me video of you going up to a bunch of Puerto Ricans and calling the women that. I’ll respect you. Really...

Hey I gave you a link of what Americans think of the Wars... I’m still waiting for your sorry ass reply...

 

[BoilermakerD]

She cannot or will not show she has any Cherokee blood. An actual Cherokee geneologist in Oklahoma has gone on record saying there is zero evidence that Warren’s family has any Cherokee ancestry whatsoever.

Oh I thought you were talking about ocasio Cortez... I don’t think of warren as Native American.. she’s a neoliberal technocratic white lady who is good on demanding banker prosecutions and consumer protection and really just an establishment democrat on most other things. Yeah, If you need her, she will come out against the Dakota access pipeline in a wishy washy way 8 months after the fact ...

She gives political cover to Suzy f-ing Orman for crying out loud...

 

[SDBoiler1]

Why do you care? Who gives a ****?

Why do I care? Because she’s used her unsubstantiated Cherokee heritage repeatedly to get into elite universities, to teach at elite universities, and become a professional politician. She’s a fraud.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Probably most Hispanic people bro.. I’m sure you will from behind your monitor. Go ahead and shoot me video of you going up to a bunch of Puerto Ricans and calling the women that. I’ll respect you. Really...

Hey I gave you a link of what Americans think of the Wars... I’m still waiting for your sorry ass reply...

Your response had zero to do with Warren’s crazy socialist act. Nice attempt to deflect with something non-germane to the topic.

 

[BoilermakerD]

Why do I care? Because she’s used her unsubstantited Cherokee heritage repeatedly to get into elite universities, to teach at elite universities, and become a professional politician. She’s a fraud.

Yes she is... she’s only progressive on big banks. Other than that she goes with establishment democrats... she’s less of a fraud than the flaming Republican obama, but she is a huge fraud.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Oh I thought you were talking about ocasio Cortez... I don’t think of warren as Native American.. she’s a neoliberal technocratic white lady who is good on demanding banker prosecutions and consumer protection and really just an establishment democrat on most other things. Yeah, If you need her, she will come out against the Dakota access pipeline in a wishy washy way 8 months after the fact ...

She gives political cover to Suzy f-ing Orman for crying out loud...

Ocasio isn’t smart enough to even think of something like this ridiculous act. So you got your panties all up in a wad over the wrong female “Progressive”. Well done.

 

[BoilermakerD]

Your response had zero to do with Warren’s crazy socialist act. Nice attempt to deflect with something non-germane to the topic.

You said in the other thread that progressives are not in the majority.. i showed you a poll on how the majority feels about the wars we are in.. you haven’t replied.

Warren? She’s a neoliberal .... oh did she “propose something?” Even if I agree with what’s in it I’m sure it’s a weak half assed proposal...

 

[BoilermakerD]

Ocasio isn’t smart enough to even think of something like this ridiculous act. So you got your panties all up in a wad over the wrong female “Progressive”. Well done.

Yeah ocasio went to Boston u and worked for ted Kennedy... I’m pretty sure she’s being propped up as staged opposition so that people don’t demexit in droves ... she hardly sounded like larouche when she was on the establishment media tour...

 

[ecouch]

Why do you care? Who gives a ****?

Because it matters to the public if folks insist on using it.

Don't play dumb. She employed identity politics 101.

 

[ecouch]

Yeah ocasio went to Boston u and worked for ted Kennedy... I’m pretty sure she’s being propped up as staged opposition so that people don’t demexit in droves ... she hardly sounded like larouche when she was on the establishment media tour...

 

[BoilermakerD]

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A real moron.. court filings admitting he’s acting...

But he should not have been silenced by democrats

He ran up on jimmy dore and dore spit in his face.... lol

 

[miksta]

So much for another stupid fact-less right wing argument.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html

 

[SDBoiler1]

So much for another stupid fact-less right wing argument.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html

Fact-less? She's not Cherokee. The Cherokee say so.

 

[miksta]

There is zero evidence that she ever benefited from "claiming to be a Native American."

It's a weak and desperate deflection because conservatives are terrified of her intellect.

 

[SDBoiler1]

There is zero evidence that she ever benefited from "claiming to be a Native American."

It's a weak and desperate deflection because conservatives are terrified of her intellect.

Zero evidence? You must not have researched this at all. She used her fake Indian heritage to land law school jobs at Harvard and Penn. She was a "diversity hire", even though she has zero Cherokee blood. She refuses to take a DNA test. She's a hyper fraud and if she runs against Trump, she'll get destroyed by him.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/elizabeth-warrens-pocahontas-controversy/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-native-american-heritage-20180311-story.html

 

[indy35]

Zero evidence? You must not have researched this at all. She used her fake Indian heritage to land law school jobs at Harvard and Penn. She was a "diversity hire", even though she has zero Cherokee blood. She refuses to take a DNA test. She's a hyper fraud and if she runs against Trump, she'll get destroyed by him.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/elizabeth-warrens-pocahontas-controversy/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-native-american-heritage-20180311-story.html

Negated by your own links, that's embarassing : "Likewise, no proof has surfaced that Warren was previously hired as a professor by any university based on her alleged heritage."

then

"The Democratic Senate candidate can't back up family lore that she is part Cherokee—but neither is there any evidence that she benefited professionally from these stories."

You act like it's shocking that someone born and raised in Oklahoma was told by their family that they had Native American ancestors in their heritage.

 

[miksta]

Zero evidence? You must not have researched this at all. She used her fake Indian heritage to land law school jobs at Harvard and Penn. She was a "diversity hire", even though she has zero Cherokee blood. She refuses to take a DNA test. She's a hyper fraud and if she runs against Trump, she'll get destroyed by him.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/elizabeth-warrens-pocahontas-controversy/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-native-american-heritage-20180311-story.html

I literally shared a link presenting research thoroughly refuting that.

Gonna have to find another attack strategy, yo.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Negated by your own links, that's embarassing : "Likewise, no proof has surfaced that Warren was previously hired as a professor by any university based on her alleged heritage."

then

"The Democratic Senate candidate can't back up family lore that she is part Cherokee—but neither is there any evidence that she benefited professionally from these stories."

You act like it's shocking that someone born and raised in Oklahoma was told by their family that they had Native American ancestors in their heritage.

That citation doesn’t negate the hundreds of other articles out there that show she’s a fraud.

No, what’s shocking is that your Progressive standardbearer can’t own up to the fact that she deceitfully uses a bogus lineage to get choice appointments at two Ivy League schools and to help her become a politician.

There’s plenty of evidence that suggests she did just that.

 

[SDBoiler1]

I literally shared a link presenting research thoroughly refuting that.

Gonna have to find another attack strategy, yo.

Read my factcheck link and show me how I’m wrong, please. I thought factcheck.org was the unimpeachable truth teller for the left.

 

[indy35]

Read my factcheck link and show me how I’m wrong, please. I thought factcheck.org was the unimpeachable truth teller for the left.

It's right there at the top, lol

FULL ANSWER
No proof has emerged that confirms that Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is, as she has claimed, part Native American. Likewise, no proof has surfaced that Warren was previously hired as a professor by any university based on her alleged heritage.

There's nothing to show that she benefited employment wise from her heritage. I know you skipped out of that Voting Rights Act thread pretty fast once you were proven wrong. You're not very good at dealing with truth are you?

 

[SDBoiler1]

It's right there at the top, lol

FULL ANSWER
No proof has emerged that confirms that Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is, as she has claimed, part Native American. Likewise, no proof has surfaced that Warren was previously hired as a professor by any university based on her alleged heritage.

There's nothing to show that she benefited employment wise from her heritage. I know you skipped out of that Voting Rights Act thread pretty fast once you were proven wrong. You're not very good at dealing with truth are you?

Again, this all became an issue after the Boston Herald reported that Harvard Law School, where Warren worked from 1995 until she was elected to the Senate in 2012, “touted Warren’s Native American background … in an effort to bolster their diversity hiring record in the ’90s as the school came under heavy fire for a faculty that was then predominantly white and male.”

In a 1996 article, the Harvard Crimson wrote: “Of 71 current Law School professors and assistant professors, 11 are women, five are black, one is Native American and one is Hispanic, said Mike Chmura, spokesperson for the Law School.”

The one Native American, according to Chmura, was Warren, the Crimson reported.

The original Herald story also led to the disclosure that Warren had identified herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools directory for law professors from 1986 to 1995. It also came out that Warren was highlighted in a 2005 report from the University of Pennsylvania’s Minority Equity Committee as a minority recipient of a teaching award at Penn.

The information in the 2005 report about minority faculty was obtained from the university’s personnel payroll system, as well as records maintained by each of Penn’s 12 different schools, according to a note on its data sources. Warren was a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School from 1987 to 1995.

It was also reported by the Boston Globe that Warren, on a 1973 application to the Rutgers Law School, declined to apply for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students, and that she listed herself as white on an undated personnel document at the University of Texas, where she worked from 1981 until 1987.

Warren has declined to authorize officials at Harvard or Penn, both private institutions, to release her employment records, as Brown challenged her to do.

 

[Scheffler90]

Was the direction of this post what you intended, SD? That is to say, are you surprised or disappointed that a post about some pretty goofy corporate controls proposed by the Senator got completely sidetracked by the reference to Pocahontas, or were you perhaps on some level hoping for a debate over her dicey claims to Native American heritage and just used the corporate proposals as a justification for adding a post about her now?

You could have just referenced "Warren" or the "Senator from Mass", or any other number of non-distracting references. But it's as if you couldn't help yourself, and thus what should have been a slam dunk "win" on the actual topic you seemed to wish to discuss (corporate legislation), get's totally sidetracked by your own doing and bogs down into a fruitless side-fight over a different issue.

I was once in a 2 on 2 debate in college against the college Democrats and we basically had it "won", until my partner just couldn't help himself in referencing Senator Kennedy as "Chappaquiddick Ted". The topic of our debate had nothing to do with Senator Kennedy or his personal conduct, but that reference drew audible groans from the audience, even from Republican folks. Note: I'm a longtime devotee of Chappaquiddick Incident info and am always reminding people that Ms Kopechne suffocated, not drowned. But that wasn't the time or place.

This is a large part of the issue I have with this new method of debates on "our side" in the shrill, name-calling, trolling methodology that basically undermines otherwise strong positions. It's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. You could have referenced her as "Sen Warren" in this post, then started a separate post debating the accuracy of her claims to Native American heritage, but for some reason, you combined the two. Perhaps it fulfills some basic need that I fully don't appreciate or will never understand, but if your goal was to convince people of the dangers of Warren's legislation (and it is dangerous), the fact that it never got debated should tell you something about your approach.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Was the direction of this post what you intended, SD? That is to say, are you surprised or disappointed that a post about some pretty goofy corporate controls proposed by the Senator got completely sidetracked by the reference to Pocahontas, or were you perhaps on some level hoping for a debate over her dicey claims to Native American heritage and just used the corporate proposals as a justification for adding a post about her now?

You could have just referenced "Warren" or the "Senator from Mass", or any other number of non-distracting references. But it's as if you couldn't help yourself, and thus what should have been a slam dunk "win" on the actual topic you seemed to wish to discuss (corporate legislation), get's totally sidetracked by your own doing and bogs down into a fruitless side-fight over a different issue.

I was once in a 2 on 2 debate in college against the college Democrats and we basically had it "won", until my partner just couldn't help himself in referencing Senator Kennedy as "Chappaquiddick Ted". The topic of our debate had nothing to do with Senator Kennedy or his personal conduct, but that reference drew audible groans from the audience, even from Republican folks. Note: I'm a longtime devotee of Chappaquiddick Incident info and am always reminding people that Ms Kopechne suffocated, not drowned. But that wasn't the time or place.

This is a large part of the issue I have with this new method of debates on "our side" in the shrill, name-calling, trolling methodology that basically undermines otherwise strong positions. It's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. You could have referenced her as "Sen Warren" in this post, then started a separate post debating the accuracy of her claims to Native American heritage, but for some reason, you combined the two. Perhaps it fulfills some basic need that I fully don't appreciate or will never understand, but if your goal was to convince people of the dangers of Warren's legislation (and it is dangerous), the fact that it never got debated should tell you something about your approach.

Maybe that’s the difference between you and me. I don’t treat threads on this board as a debate to be won or lost.

The reason the proposed legislation never got debated here is because lefties have no interest in impugning their Progressive darling.

 

[miksta]

Again, this all became an issue after the Boston Herald reported that Harvard Law School, where Warren worked from 1995 until she was elected to the Senate in 2012, “touted Warren’s Native American background … in an effort to bolster their diversity hiring record in the ’90s as the school came under heavy fire for a faculty that was then predominantly white and male.”

In a 1996 article, the Harvard Crimson wrote: “Of 71 current Law School professors and assistant professors, 11 are women, five are black, one is Native American and one is Hispanic, said Mike Chmura, spokesperson for the Law School.”

The one Native American, according to Chmura, was Warren, the Crimson reported.

The original Herald story also led to the disclosure that Warren had identified herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools directory for law professors from 1986 to 1995. It also came out that Warren was highlighted in a 2005 report from the University of Pennsylvania’s Minority Equity Committee as a minority recipient of a teaching award at Penn.

The information in the 2005 report about minority faculty was obtained from the university’s personnel payroll system, as well as records maintained by each of Penn’s 12 different schools, according to a note on its data sources. Warren was a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School from 1987 to 1995.

It was also reported by the Boston Globe that Warren, on a 1973 application to the Rutgers Law School, declined to apply for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students, and that she listed herself as white on an undated personnel document at the University of Texas, where she worked from 1981 until 1987.

Warren has declined to authorize officials at Harvard or Penn, both private institutions, to release her employment records, as Brown challenged her to do.

Published by the Globe two damn days ago:

"In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman."

 

[ecouch]

She lied, but didn't benefit from the lie, is more Trumpian than Trump himself.

Its the perfect collision of when character began to not matter, Clinton, and hopefully its peak, Trump.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

She lied, but didn't benefit from the lie, is more Trumpian than Trump himself.

Its the perfect collision of when character began to not matter, Clinton, and hopefully its peak, Trump.

she can't win anyway. full blow wing nut from a state that categorically sucks to live in. the massholes can keep her.

 

[miksta]

she can't win anyway. full blow wing nut from a state that categorically sucks to live in. the massholes can keep her.

hot taek alert!

Mass is delightful. Boston is also great. Would happily live in either.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

hot taek alert!

Mass is delightful. Boston is also great. Would happily live in either happily.

great for ... what exactly? bad weather, bad traffic, bad taxes, mean people, bad crime, high rent. seafood?

 

[miksta]

great for ... what exactly? bad weather, bad traffic, bad taxes, mean people, bad crime, high rent. seafood?

Brilliant people, amazing universities, great travel hub, some of the best beer in the world, authentic people, great seafood, great parks and public services in general, fascinating history. High rent means high demand. People can complain about that all they want, but it wouldn't be so high if there weren't A LOT of people who disagreed with you. Also, for me, Boston rent would be a breath of fresh air. lol