End of Game Situations

[*4purdue*]

First off, that was a good win & I'm glad we played the 2 B1G teams that we did this last week. I think both are going to get much better later in the year & getting those 2 behind us is a plus. That said, this team really needs to work on end of game situations more than they apparently do. We were very lucky yesterday as that game could have easily been tied. Why we try to foul with just a reach from behind & expect it to get called as the last line of defense is beyond me. Either wrap up the player or play defense. I'm in favor of fouling at the end (up by 3), but you better practice it. Why Haarms was not on the perimeter during that possession also baffles me. Give them the 2 if that's what they want, but not an open 3. I would have thought after the UT game, that this would be a resolved issue, but apparently not.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

ya...pj *barely* got jersey on that play. gotta execute, even when fouling intentionally.

 

[Do Dah Day]

First off, that was a good win & I'm glad we played the 2 B1G teams that we did this last week. I think both are going to get much better later in the year & getting those 2 behind us is a plus. That said, this team really needs to work on end of game situations more than they apparently do. We were very lucky yesterday as that game could have easily been tied. Why we try to foul with just a reach from behind & expect it to get called as the last line of defense is beyond me. Either wrap up the player or play defense. I'm in favor of fouling at the end (up by 3), but you better practice it. Why Haarms was not on the perimeter during that possession also baffles me. Give them the 2 if that's what they want, but not an open 3. I would have thought after the UT game, that this would be a resolved issue, but apparently not.

These are not answers, just thoughts. 1. Haarms would be one of the easier players for a shooter to jump into and get a foul called against him. Odds, don't know, but possible. Depending on the time on the clock when the first shot is taken, we don't want them to get an easy rebound of the first shot and pass it to someone who has been left open by our guys turning to rebound, it's the natural thing to do. and 2. I totally agree on make the damn foul count, but it's a very unnatural thing to do after being trained not to for years and in the adrenaline of the moment, it just takes a second to swipe rather than wrap. It doesn't represent lack of preparation to me as much as muscle and mental memory taking over. I've had far too many teams practice situational response and rarely had them successfully execute what they practiced when it is a lot different from what is done the rest of the game. It just is what it is.

 

[ToddFosterakadirty]

First off, that was a good win & I'm glad we played the 2 B1G teams that we did this last week. I think both are going to get much better later in the year & getting those 2 behind us is a plus. That said, this team really needs to work on end of game situations more than they apparently do. We were very lucky yesterday as that game could have easily been tied. Why we try to foul with just a reach from behind & expect it to get called as the last line of defense is beyond me. Either wrap up the player or play defense. I'm in favor of fouling at the end (up by 3), but you better practice it. Why Haarms was not on the perimeter during that possession also baffles me. Give them the 2 if that's what they want, but not an open 3. I would have thought after the UT game, that this would be a resolved issue, but apparently not.

I agree that we need to play smarter at the end of games, but if you watched the end of regulation in the Illinois and Maryland game you would see what bad decisions really are. Both teams looked like they have never been coached before that day.

 

[BoiledSteel]

First off, that was a good win & I'm glad we played the 2 B1G teams that we did this last week. I think both are going to get much better later in the year & getting those 2 behind us is a plus. That said, this team really needs to work on end of game situations more than they apparently do. We were very lucky yesterday as that game could have easily been tied. Why we try to foul with just a reach from behind & expect it to get called as the last line of defense is beyond me. Either wrap up the player or play defense. I'm in favor of fouling at the end (up by 3), but you better practice it. Why Haarms was not on the perimeter during that possession also baffles me. Give them the 2 if that's what they want, but not an open 3. I would have thought after the UT game, that this would be a resolved issue, but apparently not.

Leave it to you to find something to nitpick instead of just enjoying the win. the defense was fine at the end, it wasn't CMP's fault the refs didn't call a foul.

 

[rustcr]

And here come the forum police...

 

[*4purdue*]

These are not answers, just thoughts. 1. Haarms would be one of the easier players for a shooter to jump into and get a foul called against him. Odds, don't know, but possible. Depending on the time on the clock when the first shot is taken, we don't want them to get an easy rebound of the first shot and pass it to someone who has been left open by our guys turning to rebound, it's the natural thing to do. and 2. I totally agree on make the damn foul count, but it's a very unnatural thing to do after being trained not to for years and in the adrenaline of the moment, it just takes a second to swipe rather than wrap. It doesn't represent lack of preparation to me as much as muscle and mental memory taking over. I've had far too many teams practice situational response and rarely had them successfully execute what they practiced when it is a lot different from what is done the rest of the game. It just is what it is.

I get what you're saying about Haarms, but if he's set, most of the time the refs aren't going to blow the whistle at the end of a game. He could be 3' inside the arc with his size and still change the shot.

 

[rustcr]

I get what you're saying about Haarms, but if he's set, most of the time the refs aren't going to blow the whistle at the end of a game. He could be 3' inside the arc with his size and still change the shot.

Just curious. Do you happen to know the wing span for Haarms and Haas?

 

[DannyGranger]

Just curious. Do you happen to know the wing span for Haarms and Haas?

Good question. If I had to guess I'd say Matt has him by 2" - 3"

Are those measurable published anywhere?

 

[SnowLeopard]

Isaac Haas has a listed 7'5 wingspan. Matt Haarms is around there, maybe an inch or two more

For comparison's sake, Hammons 7-3 and the top shot blockers in the NBA are around 7-3 to 7-6

 

[bonefish1]

I was surprised MP wasn't swapping offense for D with Eastern and Cline towards the end like he does with Haas and Haarms. Cline is a revolving D on perimeter D and I'd prefer to have better athlete and rebounder like NE on the defensive end .

 

[boilerzz]

I was surprised MP wasn't swapping offense for D with Eastern and Cline towards the end like he does with Haas and Haarms. Cline is a revolving D on perimeter D and I'd prefer to have better athlete and rebounder like NE on the defensive end .

Have you even watched Purdue basketball this year?