Did Purdue confirm keeping DH or...
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I don't think so. Nothing official ever came out. People are just taking what Tiller had to say and making their own assumptions about the direction of the program. No one officially said the clowns would be back for a fourth year.
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Right now,I think its just talk.I still don't know how Purdue can plan a 60 million dollar facility,but cant fire the six million dollar coach.
The newspaper is reporting that Hazell said that he was never in a conversation about being back next season. Let's hope that is true. And yes, Purdue would have to be serious penny pinchers if they don't buyout Hazell's contract but go ahead with the 60 million dollar project.
Well technically, he doesn't need to have a conversation with anyone about "being back". Purdue has contractually agreed to him being the coach next year. If Purdue doesn't want him to coach next year, that would be the situation warranting a conversation.
ESPN reported it as a "source" saying it. It most likely, at the time, was Purdue's way of giving Hazell a public vote of confidence without tying anyone's name to it. It was right after the Nebraska game and also with the announcement of the facility.
Things will get interesting now that the media is starting to ask Hazell himself. This will force it to be addressed if it becomes persistent. An AD can only stay silent so long when their coach is being asked about being back next year.
It seems to me that Forde did some reporting and concluded Purdue was keeping CDH, but Purdue has not made a formal announcement. Forde's a good reporter, and Tiller was widely quoted in the piece expressing his opinion that CDH would be retained. It's possible that Tiller was just opining based on his experience and Forde over-interpreted the opinion. Perhaps Tiller and/or Forde have some back-channel confirmation from the U or another unnamed source that said Hazell was staying. But the fact that the U has not made any announcement tells me that even if they are leaning towards keeping Hazell, they are leaving room to can him. If they can him, and someone says, "but Pat Forde reported you weren't....." seems like they can always say that his reporting was wrong for whatever reason.
In spite of the huge pay-out, it's difficult to fathom that he can keep is job with 1-11, 3-9, and 2-10 seasons.......even at Purdue. I mean, they'll average 15,000 in attendance if they are lucky if they keep Hazell.. Even English majors can do the math on those numbers.
In spite of the huge pay-out, it's difficult to fathom that he can keep is job with 1-11, 3-9, and 2-10 seasons.......even at Purdue. I mean, they'll average 15,000 in attendance if they are lucky if they keep Hazell.. Even English majors can do the math on those numbers.
I believe this is correct. Furthermore, Haz has stated that Burke has not discussed this with him.
It's very simple. Purdue put the word out anonymously to keep things at bay. As soon as the media starts asking questions and an actual public statement is needed by the university, that's where things get dicey. Purdue is trying to avoid that.
I read it on the ESPN website. It indicated "sources" - so take that for what it's worth. We just lost one of our more talented recruits yesterday and if I had to guess, the Illinois loss was so ugly to this kid he saw the writing on the wall that he didn't want to be part of that. Time for a coaching change.
"Ted Danson is anonymous..." Have to be a Curb Your Enthusiasm fan to appreciate that.
The facility upgrade is out of the university facilities capital upgrade budget. That money, if not going toward the football building, would be spent on parking garages, classroom upgrades, etc. Thats why it needed BOT approval.
The money to pay off Hazell would almost certainly come out of the athletic/JPC budget. Or possibly from private funds designated specifically for the buyout. From a line item perspective, they are completely separate and unrelated.
This doesn't mean we won't still fire DH, but you can't assume because we are spending money from one bucket we will automatically spend it from the other.
I personally thought it was a sign we were going to fire him based on how the press conference went, but then Forde's article came out. So now I honestly don't know. I'm assuming Hazell is back but with staff changes. And I hope it's under the condition we go bowling next year or he's gone.
If he goes 0-3 down the stretch - with some epic loses - I think there's a strong chance he's gone.
One more win and I'm afraid he may buy himself another year.
One more win and I'm afraid he may buy himself another year.
so I guess we hope for a negative ( to losing games) in order for a positive to happen ( a coaching change) hopefully Campbell.
Burke feared that the cloud of uncertainty hovering over Hazell was resulting in (1) Difficult recruiting and (2) Current players giving up. So, he put out the anonymous information in order to give the program a needed boost. The results are in - a beatdown on Homecoming and a de-commitment 2 days later.
Considering we are batting only 3 out of our last 10 coaching hires being successful, assuming a coaching change will be a positive isn't a given by any means. I agree with others that who does the hiring is more important than when we do the hiring.
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If I am remembering correctly, Morgan Burke has one year remaining on his AD contract. Why would anybody fire a coach (buyout included) only to hire a coach that the next AD might not care for? This is not meant toward the OP but to all of the folks clamoring for Hazell to be canned. Think through the problems before spouting off about how this coach or that coach stinks. Maybe, just maybe this forum would become a wealth of intelligent conversation but as this is the same forum that 10-15 people overload with their comments aka their "expertise", probably not.
For people who have watched the game closer than I, do you think that DH has given up? His body language, quotes, conduct during and after the game. Does he come across as a fighter or going through the motions? Is it different now than what was the last two seasons?
He looks more defeated now than ever....which is true...he keeps losing without winning more.
He's out of quotes and coach speak to explain why we suck without straight up saying we suck.
I think he doesn't understand the offense enough to even comment on it. The rollout pass where the QB spins around then rolls... It looks like something on Playstation.
I don't think he's "given up" in the sense he's waving a white flag, I just think he's out of ideas.
He may know his fate has been sealed.
If DH is fired, who would even want the Purdue job at this point? Even in the B1G, how many years would it take to get Purdue back to respectability?
This is kinda silly. At the end of the day, Purdue's job is still a BIG TEN job, which is the wealthiest conference in the country with the most exposure.
IU attracted a pretty well-known guy from a major powerhouse at the time to come to a program that was in horrible shape. It certainly has not been easy for him, but you'll always have candidates.
You also have to be realistic. We aren't paying $5 million - nor should we. Is Purdue going to get a Jim Harbaugh? Of course not.
That doesn't mean we can't get a good coach though.
I think the Big Ten is the biggest and most high-profile conference in the country. It will likely add 2 more schools cementing its position.
I think most coaches would consider a job in the B1G as pinnicle job. It has its challenges however. It is no cake walk in this conference and it is fiercely competitive. Purdue can and will attract good coaches who will fit in on campus and in the league. There is a fan base here and Ross Ade can be filled again if coaches/team play hard and get better. (the Hope/Hazell eras have done neither)
Whether a coaching job opens at the end of this season or next year (I think next year), Purdue will find candidates that are wanting to come to this league and compete.
I think most coaches would consider a job in the B1G as pinnicle job. It has its challenges however. It is no cake walk in this conference and it is fiercely competitive. Purdue can and will attract good coaches who will fit in on campus and in the league. There is a fan base here and Ross Ade can be filled again if coaches/team play hard and get better. (the Hope/Hazell eras have done neither)
Whether a coaching job opens at the end of this season or next year (I think next year), Purdue will find candidates that are wanting to come to this league and compete.
He looked like a loser from the Get-Go. He isn't putting as much effort in to his public BS sessions, just treats the public / alumni like they have double digit IQ's not unlike his own.
