Last night while having a couple beverages talking with Purdue friends watching game 7. Topic came up about this years team. Would you rather be able to give Biggie, Hummels three point shot and ball handling or give Haas, AJs shot blocking and rebounding?
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for me....give me hummels three ball and ball handling in biggies body. If Haas grabbed 4 or five more boards and blocked anothe couple of shots again I don't think it could equal the production of a new Biggie that didn't depend on someone to throw him the ball adn could score on the perimeter or bang down low. I think we would be talking Big Dog 2, but better ball handler...
If you give Biggie the consistency of Hummel behind the arc and his ball handling, you would have a clear #1 pick and am NBA player that a franchise is built around. Put a player like that in the college, Biggie would average a triple double.
Would you rather have Batman with the ability to fly or Superman with a sidekick like Robin?
Not that we aren't getting into major OT area here, but Batman can already "glide" and does have a freakin' bat jet, so he can already fly. Second, Superman has Krypto the super dog, which is frankly more useful than Robin anyways.
....and yes, I am a supreme nerd. Don't judge.
If I was stranded on some alien planet, I think you guys can keep your Batmen, Robin, and Superman. I will take Wonder Woman.
Well, since we have powers to mix, why not Bigdog scoring ability with mid 70's John Wooden wisdom, heart and knowledge of the game?
Someone give Painter some of Keadys temperament while we're at it and we're set.
Someone give Painter some of Keadys temperament while we're at it and we're set.
I guess the argument for Haas was more of AJs foot work, athleticism and being able to get up and down quickly off the jump. Leading to his blocks and rebounding.
Her or she hulkIf I was stranded on some alien planet, I think you guys can keep your Batmen, Robin, and Superman. I will take Wonder Woman.
..... don't judge me!Considering Biggie is already a beast rebounder, and I believe more productive or nearly as productive per minute as AJ was, gaining a deadly 3pt shot and ball handling would improve him much more. He would pretty much be Lebron James if that were the case.
He still wouldn't be Lebron. Lebron is one of the best athletes in the world. Swanigan is not close athletically.
Draymond Green is a better example, but if you compare Swanigan to Green at the same age, I like where Swanigan is in his development. I am hoping that we'll see a big difference in his skills this year versus last.
The few times I have been able to see him it seems he is more athletic this year and that is a huge plus since that was ab Achilles heel last year. However, I cabn't imagine him getting too consistent on his perimeter shooting as long as he shoots beside his head rather than going up through his right eye...
I take Batman as is. I have always liked the Anti-hero's...Batman, Dead Pool, the Punisher.
I agree on the improved athleticism, but he's still a long way from Lebron.
Good point on his shooting form. That should an easy problem to correct. I wonder if anyone has tried working with him on it.
True story!Since we're going green...Captain Kirks' green alien conquest was fantastic. If I remember right she was super in a way
I would like to think so,but how does one miss it? put your shooting hand beside your face and lift...notice how your shoulder and upper arm tightens . up. Now, just lift your shooting hand with the thumb out perpendicular to your hand above your eye brow and see how much smoother you can lift.
Feel free to call me stupid this is a radical opinion. I believe that Hammons was a bit overrated defensively. His shot blocking was incredible. He would wait until the ball left opponents hands to block in an attempt to avoid fouling. But sometimes Hammons would miss and a weak side defender would have an easy put back. Also Hammons was not the best at blocking out it rarely hurt him because he would go after the ball but I think Haas is an underrated defender even if he doesn't block shots. He keeps opponents farther away from the block and doesn't try to block shots just stands up straight.
Rather give biggie more skills
Rather give biggie more skills
No kidding. I assume all kids learn this by third grade. But, if he developed bad habits when he was young, I'm sure they aren't real easy to change.
There are a LOT of coaches and even more players and fans that cannot teach shooting...many were successful due to other things and we're not corrected as a result
Agree. Haas is not an exciting defender to watch but that doesn't mean he is not a good one. He may block everything but he makes any inside shot damn hard to make
He's a much better post defender than he is a help defender. Help defense needs to be a total team effort this season.
I agree with the principles you describe (try to get better position to secure the rebound), but I saw things differently last year and respectfully disagree. It's true that if Haas is between his man and the basket, his position will make the shot tougher. While I love Haas, I think he lacks the ability to change directions laterally once he starts going in one direction. That's probably the biggest thing that holds him back from being NBA material because his skill level is above average. Not hating, few guys his size can (Shaq). It's really difficult to recover as he's just so massive. For a 7 footer, opponents had a lot of easy looks at the rim because of it. So many times, a guy quick 6'7" could give him a head fake or 2 and would get an easy opportunity.
Haas is also a guy that won't get many rebounds out of his zone. I thought AJ had excellent lateral movement and was above average to react/jump to get rebounds out of his zone.
Agree with your points. He therefore should not chase blocks. Just take the ones that come to you so you maintain position and balance. Definitely different than AJ but it can still work for Purdue.
If Haas had AJs footwork athleticism and ability to get up and down quickly at 7'2 290. I think you'd see one of the most dominant college players. Not only would his shot blocking and rebounding improve. But his offensive game would increase a ton too.
I agree and think that your statement is accurate. Haas will and can never be the defender that Hammons was. But I do think that Hammons defense was overrated.
I believe that our interior defense will be just a step below last year. I think that Swanigan will make huge strides which will help to fill the hole Hammons is leaving.
Your analysis is spot on though and I was mainly referring to interior defense. CMP will have to make Haas stay closer to the rim than Hammons did. Hammons had enough athleticism to step out to the 3 point line and recover Haas does not. Haas must rely on better positioning.
If AJ had had Haas' offensive ability and work ethic he'd have gone early in round1.
I read an interview with AJ recently and he admitted to being lazy at times in college. No big news there, but just reinforces what he could have been if he had worked harder at his game.
Early first round? That is a reach. Regardless of work ethic he is not a lottery pick.
The goat has spoken. We are now so much wiser. Nothing like speculative statements that allow no for room doubt. It makes you so much more credible on your 31st post.
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