I said from the beginning that Painter is a top 10-15 coach. Since you seem to struggle with that definition, that means he ranks somewhere between 10th and 15th of current coaches.
Hardly. You have to be a youngster looking for the den mother of the CMP mothers club
And you have to be an unsatisfied blow hard that thinks we can do better than Painter.
No just a realist who has been waiting for a return to the F4. 42 years is unacceptable from the same coaching tree. Purdue doesn’t have to settle
If we were to replace Painter now, our next coach would have a better chance of being Hazel than getting us to the final 4.
Which could have been avoided if he hadn’t put one of his best rebounders on the bench. His lack of in game adjustments are glaring
Your definition said 10 to 15. I know what it means. That's why I said he wouldn't be included in the top 10. You do realize #10 is part of 10 to 15 right? And is also part of the top 10, right?
You don’t get very much credibility when you say Cronin has been to the championship game (he hasn’t) and that he has had UCLA in the top 25 for “several years”. He’s only been at UCLA for 2 years. UCLA makes him a better recruiter. He didn’t do shit at Cincinnati. UCLA tried to get Painter after they failed to get Calipari before they had to settle for Cronin.
Overachieved? Now that's laughable...
I appreciate your loyalty but we haven’t overachieved. In the late 60’s and late 70’s/80 both our BB and FB programs were some of the best in the country. There’s no reason we can’t expect more.
Our average here is so much lower than what Keady and Painter have given us. We will never recruit at a higher level than we have under them. They get the most out of their players though.
A 2nd and 3rd place finish in the NCAA. The closest we got to that level was late 90’s/00 when the women won the NC, Keady got to E8 and we went to Rose Bowl
Lol the women and football have nothing to do with the conversation. Way to move the goalposts though.
Interesting list. 4 guys that I'm sure 95% or more of PU fans would never want as their coach (Bonefish might). 2 guys that are no better and might be worse than Painter. 1 guy with a foot in that grave. I know you answered the question, but this list is weak.
Goal posts, weren’t you saying Purdue wasn’t a destination school and CMP and Keady were as good as we could expect? I was being generous by including WBB and FB had success during the same time periods. To make you happy I’ll only include BB which proves my point further. We have done much better in the past and 42 years is unacceptable
Who said anything about coaches we'd want at Purdue? The list is full of active coaches with higher achievements than Painter. Maybe one or two are marginal. But you can't argue the results...
Agree with the results, but 4 of those guys cheated to get those results. Would they be better than Painter if they weren't cheaters?
Nor can I, but in my book a cheater cannot be considered a great coach. They got there by having great players. They got many of those players by cheating. To me, the only thing they've proven they're good at is cheating.
No one GAF about womens basketball. Purdue got to the Rose Bowl one time.
Not wrong on all accounts, and I was talking about results during the time period you were referencing.
Significantly worse? No way of knowing that.
You are correct, we have no way of knowing what the college basketball landscape will be in 20+ years.
Funny thing about that rebound - Had we gotten it, most folks not liking him would now be on board. But he'd still be the exact same coach. Same style of D, same motion O, same recruiting method, but he is now annotated as a FF capable coach. Amazing what one rebound can do.
And very good chance he would have a national championship, but 1 rebound definitely makes him a worse coach than he would have been otherwise!
My personal guess would be that Painter hand picks his replacement, and we keep chugging along with man to man D and motion offense, with similar results that we have now.
Disagree. We went to 2 Final Fours in the 12 seasons before the Keady/Painter era. They are both good coaches, but haven’t “overachieved” relative to Purdue basketball history.
You know that...we know that...Purdue basketball does not, as, it has had literally 2 coaches since, and, they are extremely similar in nature with extremely similar results...none of which include a Final Four appearance.
