https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...high-major-coaches-who-dont-break-ncaa-rules/
Looks like Izzo has defied the critics on this board.
Looks like Izzo has defied the critics on this board.
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Or he just hasn't been caught yet. And you did see it was based on opinion only right?
That looked like a really comprehensive investigation by CBS Sports. I'm convinced.
Izzo got caught breaking the rules an had to serve a one game suspension. I guess that doesn't count?
Very shoddy research.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=5931058
One of the issues with this sort of poll/research is that it is based on innuendo and rumor. It is hard to prove or disprove any allegations made by one coach against another. For example and of interest to this board, I have heard (unproven and unprovable) that Crean waged a slander war against several rival BIG coaches, including Painter. That might be reason enough for other coaches, unfamiliar with Numb-Nuts' credibility to think Painter might not be as clean as we think he is.
He only got 4.8% of the votes. Clearly not a vote of confidence. Hell even Beilein only got 26%. Doesn't seem to me that this article really proves anything OTHER than not a lot of coaches out there think others run a clean program.
Well, if you guys can cite a study with greater accuracy then put it out here.
I happen to think Izzo has been a great model for the integrity of the game , over a lifetime; yet according to this board, he is the Voldemort of college basketball.
I happen to think Izzo has been a great model for the integrity of the game , over a lifetime; yet according to this board, he is the Voldemort of college basketball.
Voldemort would be a bit strong. I'd liken him more to...I don't know. Peter Pettigrew? Everyone thought he was a swell guy even though he turned out not to be.
Actually the way the article is written it sounds like over 100 coaches were asked to list only 1 other coach they felt was the cleanest. So it wasn't that Beilein got 26% of the coaches to list him as clean, it was that 26% felt he was the cleanest of all. The numbers would add up to 100% if you included all the others receiving votes. They just cut if off at coaches getting at least 5 votes.
Why do these "surveys", which they are, even amuse or take our interest? Just signed back up after six years of not being on this site. Go Purdue, go boilers, go Painter, screw the rest!
So your response is to ask to cite a more "reputable" source? This article is garbage. Its like asking the guy who came out with the article claiming vaccines caused autism to refute him. BY THE WAY that guy was debunked for a faulty study.
I guess "which coaches let rapists play?" wasn't part of the criteria?
I don't think the survey is complete garbage. I mean, coaches know the rules and each other far better than most of us. I'm sure they have insight on who cheats and how.
The methodology (asking each respondent to name only one coach who they believe is the cleanest) is a little strange.
The methodology (asking each respondent to name only one coach who they believe is the cleanest) is a little strange.
What? You mean the media could have a bias?
Think about the psychology at work here. This survey comes out, and the poor insecure boys in Meat-chicken felt so put upon by the critics on this board that they rush over here to make sure we see it. Just wow! There is nothing about Purdue in the survey, so why post it here? It's like some little kid running up to you to show you something you really don't care about. You answer, "That's nice" and wave away the kid to go bother someone else. Sad really.
Wasn't there a similar coaches survey done a couple years ago that yielded a finding of Painter being the least likely coach in the B10 to cheat (or something to that effect)? That one was widely hailed here (not surprisingly). This CBS survey is probably no more or less scientific than that one, but this one is total garbage? Why are Purdue fans so sensitive? It's not like this survey had anything negative to say about Purdue or Painter, yet it appears people are all pissy about and wanting to invalidate it? So Beilein's peer group ranks him at the top of the clean coaches list for a point-in-time survey... I don't understand why this has some of you so worked up. It's not like it's an indictment against Painter or something.
You have not caught the real twist here. It is the MSU guys posting over here, not the UM guys. When the older survey came out, we did not rush to the MSU board to brag about it. This new one comes out, and the MSU Message Board Police arrive the next day over here, posting not about Beilien, but Izzo. Check the OP. Odd isn't it? Now maybe this difference slipped past you.
The second issue is that Izzo was the most recent BIG coach to have been caught cheating and get a suspension. That's the second oddity that says this survey is probably pretty weak. The credibility of this survey and the insecurity of the MSU fans are in full display in this thread. It's almost funny, if not so sad.
Well, I'm happy for you that another school's fan started a thread on the Purdue board that is dedicated to a silly poll mentioning the Michigan coach. You obviously care so much about it that it bothers you that Boilermaker fans aren't as thrilled as you are.
Feeling insecure?
I read this board about twice a week. I don't comment on everything I see. I didn't even comment on this to talk about Beilein, more to use it as an example of how the previous poster was incorrectly discussing the results of it. I don't even think the OP is a Michigan fan as all his postings here have been about Izzo as far as I can tell and he's never posted on the Michigan site.
Everybody knew Beilein was as clean as it gets long before this came out. That doesn't even qualify as news.
Did you read his later response to Upright Hoosier? He states that the OP is an MSU guy and comments about MSU guys coming over here to police this board about comments about Izzo.
Read my post in context with the other posts. I was making a general reference. This is all about the insecurities of MSU fans. Not about Michigan fans.
