CJ Hayes
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If we land Payton, it's actually an upgrade. Good riddance to a kid that had been such a pro-Purdue guy and then took a secret visit to MSU behind Brohmms back.
Ya, Hayes was all in from day one and has been interviewed several times since his commitment talking about how CJB to Purdue was his dream come true. Then he takes a trip to MSU, which had a very down year, and instant change. I don't blame him for leaving though. He was the lowest rated WR commit out of 5 and CJB is still looking to add more. He would have been a good player, but I don't know that he was better than any of the other recruits. Hope he finds a good fit and has good luck. Maybe we will turn that spot into a linebacker or another defensive lineman. Preferably one that has big upside. The stars don't bother me, but the lower star players tend to take longer to develope and we need help asap.
We received a commitment from 2* WR Catlett from Kentucky today. You can probably tell I'm a little concerned about our last 4 commitments and the direction our class is taking this last week. Catlett would not have been my first choice.
Are you someone who knows college football recruiting so well that we should be concerned that you are concerned? Or do you know nothing about college football like most everyone else on these boards?
You mean you're worried about the 1st team all state WR Keyron Catlett? This is what the Kentucky papers had to say about him.
"Had 53 receptions for 856 yards and nine touchdowns and also rushed for 233 yards and five touchdowns on 40 carries. Named the Class 5-A, District One Player of the Year by the Kentucky Football Coaches Association. The Colonels’ top receiver since his freshman season, Catlett finished his career with 213 receptions for 3,614 yards and 36 TDs. Was a second-team All-State selection as a junior."
With those kinds of stats and awards, I am very concerned about him as well because he was ranked 2 stars by Rivals. (TIC)
"Had 53 receptions for 856 yards and nine touchdowns and also rushed for 233 yards and five touchdowns on 40 carries. Named the Class 5-A, District One Player of the Year by the Kentucky Football Coaches Association. The Colonels’ top receiver since his freshman season, Catlett finished his career with 213 receptions for 3,614 yards and 36 TDs. Was a second-team All-State selection as a junior."
With those kinds of stats and awards, I am very concerned about him as well because he was ranked 2 stars by Rivals. (TIC)
Agreed here. Keyron is a philosophy fit for Brohm's offense. He will be a slot WR that is able to work inside and on the flats. I think he is a Danny Anthrop type player who may not have the top end elite speed that Anthrop had BUT what he does have is Nike Combine verified shuttle of 4.28 and a verticle 35.2. He will be a WR that fits the offensive philosophy for Brohm and at this point, those are the types of players Purdue needs to be successful sooner rather than later. Find guys that Brohm can build his offensive strategy around and watch him build a strategy to put points on the board.
I think it will definitely be a loss. I think he will be a good player for them. However, we are in a rebuilding process, so we need players to be 100% Purdue. He obviously wasn't.
I might be the biggest Purdue fan in the state of Ohio, and I get royally sideways when we lose basketball games in the ridiculous way that we have found to lose in the past couple of years. With football I have all but resigned to the fact that we're just not very good. However CJB gives me all kinds of hope, and one thing that is absolutely correct is that we have to be recruiting "Purdue players". I don't care what their star ranking is as long as this coaching staff believes they are the right fit. The recruiting process please so skewed towards the major schools. I personally watch this unfold two years ago with a friend of mine whose son was a highly sought after recruit by every major school for the secondary. I washed his star ranking go from as low as two stars to as high as four stars and back down again to two stars. I washed him say no to Ohio State, Michigan of course Purdue and many others throughout the country including USC. Had he committed to Ohio State or USC he probably would've finished at a four star rating. Since he committed to Kentucky finished as a two star athlete bottom line is he's very good and will start as a redshirt freshman and who knows where these recruits will finish their career, all I know is this coaching staff knows what they need in order to succeed and I'm going to give them the chance to prove it! Boiler up!
Nat, I bet you know the difference between washed and watched, sheesh. as bad as axed vs asked.
Football evaluations are much tougher than basketball. Fewer games and no AAU. Much more room for error in the football "star" ratings. Tiller won a ton of games with a lot of 2 and 3 star recruits.
The 7 on 7 tournaments are making it much easier to evaluate the skill talent. Kids get more exposure today than they ever did during the tiller years
The last area where you can claim a lack of exposure is line play.
Drew Brees & Aaron Rodgers were not highly ranked coming out of HS. Both unranked I believe, so it's safe to say that all these ranking services are not an exact science...
that was the old days. Today's athletes receive a lot more attention and exposure. Think about it, Brohm has added 14 players to this roster in one month. he had to know about their talents I believe the days of the hidden nuggets are long gone. .
Big talker like he was in love with Purdue and how much he loved the Brohm hire. What a dipsh*t.
Worst use of a song quote. ever.
You guys will end up loving Catlett. Have watched him play since the 8th grade. I tell everyone to look at video of Eli Rogers when he played at Louisville. Same skill set. If it's close to him, it's caught.
More 3 stars and lower made the Pro Bowl than the 4/5 Star guys:
5-star recruits (12)
Lorenzo Alexander
Eric Berry
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Jadeveon Clowney
Landon Collins
A.J. Green
Everson Griffen
Julio Jones
Gerald McCoy
Greg Olsen
Patrick Peterson
4-star recruits (24)
Odell Beckham
Derek Carr
Amari Cooper
Fletcher Cox
Ezekiel Elliott
Larry Fitzgerald
Devonta Freeman
Dont'a Hightower
Tyreek Hill
Janoris Jenkins
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
LeSean McCoy
C.J. Mosley
Reggie Nelson
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jason Peters
Maurkice Pouncey
Jordan Reed
Harrison Smith
Tyron Smith
Ndamukong Suh
Joe Thomas
Cameron Wake
3-star recruits (29)
Geno Atkins
Cliff Avril
Vic Beasley
Le'Veon Bell
Jurrell Casey
David DeCastro
Aaron Donald
Mike Evans
Travis Frederick
Dwayne Harris
Casey Heyward
Rodney Hudson*
Travis Kelce
Ryan Kerrigan
Luke Kuechly
Devin McCourty
Von Miller
Brian Orakpo
Kelechi Osemele
Marcus Peters
Dak Prescott
Xavier Rhodes
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Brandon Scherff
Richard Sherman
Justin Tucker
Trent Williams
Marshal Yanda
* - Rivals.com ranking
2-star recruits (7)
Chris Harris
T.Y. Hilton
T.J. Lang
Alex Mack
Pat McAfee
Aqib Talib
Bobby Wagner
Unranked recruits (14)
Michael Bennett
Tom Brady
Antonio Brown
Matt Bryant
Thomas Davis
Johnny Hekker
David Johnson
Kyle Juszczyk
Khalil Mack
Donald Penn
Ben Roethlisberger
Matthew Slater
Mike Tolbert
Delanie Walker
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...g-day-recruiting-ratings-for-2017-pro-bowlers
There's also hundreds more 3-star/unranked players than 4/5 stars
More 3 stars and lower made the Pro Bowl than the 4/5 Star guys:
5-star recruits (12)
Lorenzo Alexander
Eric Berry
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Jadeveon Clowney
Landon Collins
A.J. Green
Everson Griffen
Julio Jones
Gerald McCoy
Greg Olsen
Patrick Peterson
4-star recruits (24)
Odell Beckham
Derek Carr
Amari Cooper
Fletcher Cox
Ezekiel Elliott
Larry Fitzgerald
Devonta Freeman
Dont'a Hightower
Tyreek Hill
Janoris Jenkins
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
LeSean McCoy
C.J. Mosley
Reggie Nelson
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jason Peters
Maurkice Pouncey
Jordan Reed
Harrison Smith
Tyron Smith
Ndamukong Suh
Joe Thomas
Cameron Wake
3-star recruits (29)
Geno Atkins
Cliff Avril
Vic Beasley
Le'Veon Bell
Jurrell Casey
David DeCastro
Aaron Donald
Mike Evans
Travis Frederick
Dwayne Harris
Casey Heyward
Rodney Hudson*
Travis Kelce
Ryan Kerrigan
Luke Kuechly
Devin McCourty
Von Miller
Brian Orakpo
Kelechi Osemele
Marcus Peters
Dak Prescott
Xavier Rhodes
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Brandon Scherff
Richard Sherman
Justin Tucker
Trent Williams
Marshal Yanda
* - Rivals.com ranking
2-star recruits (7)
Chris Harris
T.Y. Hilton
T.J. Lang
Alex Mack
Pat McAfee
Aqib Talib
Bobby Wagner
Unranked recruits (14)
Michael Bennett
Tom Brady
Antonio Brown
Matt Bryant
Thomas Davis
Johnny Hekker
David Johnson
Kyle Juszczyk
Khalil Mack
Donald Penn
Ben Roethlisberger
Matthew Slater
Mike Tolbert
Delanie Walker
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...g-day-recruiting-ratings-for-2017-pro-bowlers
I believe my point was that was the old days and today's current athlete receives a lot more exposure, and hence the national rankings are a lot more accurate. Using Brady and Rothesburger and older players to prove your point only makes mine more valid. % wise, our current rankings are pretty accurate at predicting a recruit's success.
Drew Brees- 6 stars
More 3 stars and lower made the Pro Bowl than the 4/5 Star guys:
5-star recruits (12)
Lorenzo Alexander
Eric Berry
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Jadeveon Clowney
Landon Collins
A.J. Green
Everson Griffen
Julio Jones
Gerald McCoy
Greg Olsen
Patrick Peterson
4-star recruits (24)
Odell Beckham
Derek Carr
Amari Cooper
Fletcher Cox
Ezekiel Elliott
Larry Fitzgerald
Devonta Freeman
Dont'a Hightower
Tyreek Hill
Janoris Jenkins
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
LeSean McCoy
C.J. Mosley
Reggie Nelson
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jason Peters
Maurkice Pouncey
Jordan Reed
Harrison Smith
Tyron Smith
Ndamukong Suh
Joe Thomas
Cameron Wake
3-star recruits (29)
Geno Atkins
Cliff Avril
Vic Beasley
Le'Veon Bell
Jurrell Casey
David DeCastro
Aaron Donald
Mike Evans
Travis Frederick
Dwayne Harris
Casey Heyward
Rodney Hudson*
Travis Kelce
Ryan Kerrigan
Luke Kuechly
Devin McCourty
Von Miller
Brian Orakpo
Kelechi Osemele
Marcus Peters
Dak Prescott
Xavier Rhodes
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Brandon Scherff
Richard Sherman
Justin Tucker
Trent Williams
Marshal Yanda
* - Rivals.com ranking
2-star recruits (7)
Chris Harris
T.Y. Hilton
T.J. Lang
Alex Mack
Pat McAfee
Aqib Talib
Bobby Wagner
Unranked recruits (14)
Michael Bennett
Tom Brady
Antonio Brown
Matt Bryant
Thomas Davis
Johnny Hekker
David Johnson
Kyle Juszczyk
Khalil Mack
Donald Penn
Ben Roethlisberger
Matthew Slater
Mike Tolbert
Delanie Walker
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...g-day-recruiting-ratings-for-2017-pro-bowlers
WORD!! Biggest fan...that I know of...if you are bigger, then I am all about that because I am all about Purdue
