Just curious, what was the differences between Carson Edwards and Bryson Scott? My thoughts are that Bryson was a little more out of control and possibly not as willing to listen to Painters coaching. Your thoughts?
Carson/Bryson
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Bryson was great at getting to the rim. Actually scoring when he did it was his issue. So combining out of control with not scoring frustrated Painter. Carson is very good at finishing at the rim so his perceived lack of control isn't an issue. < My take
One can shoot and one cannot, among others.
I think that Carsen is better at playing team defense. On offense, he’s not only a better shooter, but he attacks with more of a purpose. Bryson would often probe the defense with the dribble when there was nothing there.
To be fair, I yell at the television a lot when Carsen starts weaving through traffic. It happens less this year than last, but it is still there. I think the difference between the two is that Carsen can finish at the rim on those drives where Bryson couldn’t. I am not sure what next year’s team will look like, but I am glad Carsen is on it.
Simply put from an outsiders perspective, Carsen is a much better player on both ends of the floor.
I am not, and don't want to get into a pissing match, but looking up both of their stats this year the numbers say otherwise. Those are numbers, but does that mean that the numbers don't tell the whole story or are we just that biased?
Bryson 46% 2pt 29% 3pt 83% ft 22 ppg
Carson 49% 2pt 31% 3pt 81% ft 17 ppg
Bryson 46% 2pt 29% 3pt 83% ft 22 ppg
Carson 49% 2pt 31% 3pt 81% ft 17 ppg
Of course this is comparing a sophomore vs a senior
That’s true. Bryson as a Sophmore scored 94 points all year. Carsen has 222 already.
Yeah, but Bryson is THE guy on his team. Carsen has talent around him. Bryson is going to have more opportunities to get his numbers.
I guess that's why I ask if it was that Carson is just more coachable, because it seems that their over all games are very similar. It just seems like Carson is forgiven a little more for mistakes. Is it possible that Painter has changed to be more tolerant of a more score first type guard? I ask because I don't know and am curious of others opinions.
Minutes played? Assists? Turnovers?Rebounds? Team record and SOS?
Minutes:
Edwards - 26.8
Scott - 30.3
Assists:
Edwards - 2.5
Scott - 2.9
TOs
Edwards - 2.2
Scott - 3.0
Rebounds:
Edwards - 3.0
Scott - 5.0
Team record and SOS
Edwards - 11-2 & 26
Scott - 7-5 & 300
Also the per 40 minute and per 100 possessions are mostly in Carsens favor. AND the comparison of them as Sophmores is even more stark.
I guess that is part of the answer then. Of course comparing their freshman years shows similar splits in the per 40 comparison.
Are we really trying to make the case that Bryson got a raw deal?
I think Bryson biggest problem was that he came in right after Ronnie Johnson.
More of the case that talent wise Bryson had it, but the coach ability sets them apart.
I was comparing Carsen to the Bryson that played for Purdue. I haven’t watched him since.
There is very little comparison here. CE is much better all the way around no matter what their current stats say. CE can flat out score the ball.
He also plays better consistent defense.
I love Carsons game and am willing to deal with
Oh I watched him dismantle IU last year.
Carsen is more athletic, aggressive, consistent, better defender, more of a team player, way better shooter, and has that leadership quality.
It's not even close, Carsen is an NBA caliber player, Bryson is not.
It's not even close, Carsen is an NBA caliber player, Bryson is not.
a different perspective that hasn't been mentioned. Edwards was selected as one of 15 players to represent the U.S. in a world basketball tournament. He was not just handpicked by Painter to be on that team. and he contributed, and played a lot more minutes than future NBA hall of famer and GOAT Romeo Langford. And Edwards beat out a lot of players to be selected to play for that team.
Bryson didn't even warrant an invitation for a try-out when he was his age..
Bryson didn't even warrant an invitation for a try-out when he was his age..
Wolegib has it right. Carson is probably the better player. Carson is faster, has better handles, defends better, and drives/finishes better than Scott. He is also much more aware of where his teammates are to make "that pass".
I would not spend a lot of time analyzing the IU game that Scott excelled in. Crean didn't have a clue how to deal with Scott's game, which should not have been that hard to scheme for. Maybe next game, Scott will play out of his mind and meet his potential, the potential that caused Painter to recruit him in the first place. Make no mistake, Scott is a good player!
I would not spend a lot of time analyzing the IU game that Scott excelled in. Crean didn't have a clue how to deal with Scott's game, which should not have been that hard to scheme for. Maybe next game, Scott will play out of his mind and meet his potential, the potential that caused Painter to recruit him in the first place. Make no mistake, Scott is a good player!
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Carson as a sophomore at Purdue = The player who Scott envisioned himself to be
Carson has a lot more control and speed to get to the rim, where as Scott mostly met a wall closing in and got lost under the basket..
Regardless, once a boiler, always a boiler. Go Bryson!! (less saucey, that is)
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Carson has a lot more control and speed to get to the rim, where as Scott mostly met a wall closing in and got lost under the basket..
Regardless, once a boiler, always a boiler. Go Bryson!! (less saucey, that is)
Boiler Up!!
Difference between the two at a high level, Bryson seems to only 'bring it' against IU where Carsen 'brings it' essentially every game.
I'm glad Bryson is doing well at IPFW.
I'm glad Bryson is doing well at IPFW.
Carsen is a MUCH more athletic player than Bryson. When you can blocks shots at the rim and out jump a guy for a rebound who is 6” to 10” taller than you, you’re a STUD athlete. Carsen will be playing in the NBA. If he were 3” to 4” taller he might become a lottery pick in a year or two.
This. Carsen is quicker and more explosive. Similarities are that both are off the charts for physical strength and toughness for their position. Both want the ball in their hands to make something happen. Both have a scorer's mentality and can take over a game on any given night.
Mentally, both have had to learn to play under control and in a team framework. At this stage, Carsen has shown that he is more coachable.
I love rooting for Bryson. I just wish Ft. Wayne would play Iowa. I would love to see Bryson beat down OMHR. Beating the Hoosiers is no longer a challenge for the Scott family.
Carsen was as good as a freshman as Bryson was as a 4th year Junior. You see the peak of Bryson now. What might Carsen be?
bryson had to share time with sauce. i bet it caused mental anguish.
Comparing those numbers isn't fair to Carsen. After all, he hasn't got to play against Indiana's matador defense yet.
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