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[bonefish1]

Univ of Cinci libs have their panties in a wad because the peron who donated all the land and money to start the school owned slaves.

UC board votes to remove Charles McMicken's name from all buildings, spaces

The University of Cincinnati Board of Trustees has unanimously approved a motion calling for the name Charles McMicken to be removed from buildings and digital displays on campus.

www.wlwt.com

I hope Mr. McMicken's living ancestors sue the UC for repayment of the value of the land (with interest).
Surely if the founder's name is tainted, so is the land he donated.

 

[tearsforfears]

Putin at it again

 

[BSIT]

Univ of Cinci libs have their panties in a wad because the peron who donated all the land and money to start the school owned slaves.

UC board votes to remove Charles McMicken's name from all buildings, spaces

The University of Cincinnati Board of Trustees has unanimously approved a motion calling for the name Charles McMicken to be removed from buildings and digital displays on campus.

www.wlwt.com

I hope Mr. McMicken's living ancestors sue the UC for repayment of the value of the land (with interest).
Surely if the founder's name is tainted, so is the land he donated.

Sounds like reparations may be in order

 

[TheGunner]

Univ of Cinci libs have their panties in a wad because the peron who donated all the land and money to start the school owned slaves.

UC board votes to remove Charles McMicken's name from all buildings, spaces

The University of Cincinnati Board of Trustees has unanimously approved a motion calling for the name Charles McMicken to be removed from buildings and digital displays on campus.

www.wlwt.com

I hope Mr. McMicken's living ancestors sue the UC for repayment of the value of the land (with interest).
Surely if the founder's name is tainted, so is the land he donated.

My thoughts exactly…just have the school repay for the current value of all of the land and buildings.🤔. On second thought….may be we cannot take the name down

 

[mdthornb]

Univ of Cinci libs have their panties in a wad because the peron who donated all the land and money to start the school owned slaves.

UC board votes to remove Charles McMicken's name from all buildings, spaces

The University of Cincinnati Board of Trustees has unanimously approved a motion calling for the name Charles McMicken to be removed from buildings and digital displays on campus.

www.wlwt.com

I hope Mr. McMicken's living ancestors sue the UC for repayment of the value of the land (with interest).
Surely if the founder's name is tainted, so is the land he donated.

So, they are protesting because the guy owned humans. The humans the guy owned made the money and he took that money and gave it to the university. You want to give that money to the family of the guy that owned the humans rather than the families of the humans the generated the money?

 

[bonefish1]

So, they are protesting because the guy owned humans. The humans the guy owned made the money and he took that money and gave it to the university. You want to give that money to the family of the guy that owned the humans rather than the families of the humans the generated the money?

Not saying it was right, but back in those times, slavery was legal and an accepted part of the economic engine.
99.9% of the population, including UC grads, don't know anything about Mr. McMicken, other than he gave some land and money, until some bleeding heart lib researched it and made a fuss.

But, since you brought it up, how do you feel about Kamala Harris' family being very prominent slave owners in Jamaica?
Should she be held accountable?
How should she atone?

And finally, do you know who originally capatured and sold the slaves in Africa to the Europeans?

 

[mdthornb]

Not saying it was right, but back in those times, slavery was legal and an accepted part of the economic engine.
99.9% of the population, including UC grads, don't know anything about Mr. McMicken, other than he gave some land and money, until some bleeding heart lib researched it and made a fuss.

But, since you brought it up, how do you feel about Kamala Harris' family being very prominent slave owners in Jamaica?
Should she be held accountable?
How should she atone?

And finally, do you know who originally capatured and sold the slaves in Africa to the Europeans?

So the guy used the money that the humans he owned made for him and got his name on some buildings. You object to removing that name? Dude didn’t eat the money that he donated. He owned humans that earned the money.

Don’t know her geneology, but isn’t it likely that the slave owner raped a slave which eventually led to Kamala? She should not be held accountable personally. Britain and Spain should be held accountable to fix wrongs they committed in Jamaica.

I do know who originally captured and sold the slaves. What relevance does that have here?

 

[bonefish1]

So the guy used the money that the humans he owned made for him and got his name on some buildings. You object to removing that name? Dude didn’t eat the money that he donated. He owned humans that earned the money.

Don’t know her geneology, but isn’t it likely that the slave owner raped a slave which eventually led to Kamala? She should not be held accountable personally. Britain and Spain should be held accountable to fix wrongs they committed in Jamaica.

I do know who originally captured and sold the slaves. What relevance does that have here?

Yeh, the guy participated in the economy at the time, which included owning slaves. Guess what....Blacks owned slaves at the time as well. In fact, the first slave owner in the colonies was black. Look it up.

I see you're picking and choosing where to place your rage.
It's well documented that Kamala Harris' family owned slaves in Jamaica. Now she's the hero of the left....Slight double standard.

And to fill you in on a little history, it was black Africans who raided other tribes, captured rival tribe members and sold them to the Europeans who them brought them to work in north/south America and the Caribbean.
But, they don't teach that uncomfortable truth in school because it doesn't fit the lib narrative.

 

[mdthornb]

Yeh, the guy participated in the economy at the time, which included owning slaves. Guess what....Blacks owned slaves at the time as well. In fact, the first slave owner in the colonies was black. Look it up.

I see you're picking and choosing where to place your rage.
It's well documented that Kamala Harris' family owned slaves in Jamaica. Now she's the hero of the left....Slight double standard.

And to fill you in on a little history, it was black Africans who raided other tribes, captured rival tribe members and sold them to the Europeans who them brought them to work in north/south America and the Caribbean.
But, they don't teach that uncomfortable truth in school because it doesn't fit the lib narrative.

I’m aware of that history of the Atlantic slave trade . I don’t want blacks that owned slaves celebrated either.

I don’t have animosity to descendants of people who owned slaves. Neither do I think the descendants of slave holders should be solely responsible for making things right. That is for the whole country to do.

Being a legitimate part of the economy in no way means we should honor them now

 

[bonefish1]

I’m aware of that history of the Atlantic slave trade . I don’t want blacks that owned slaves celebrated either.

I don’t have animosity to descendants of people who owned slaves. Neither do I think the descendants of slave holders should be solely responsible for making things right. That is for the whole country to do.

Being a legitimate part of the economy in no way means we should honor them now

So if McMicken's ancestors and descendants aren't responsible or held accountable for his owning slaves, then they should be compensated for the land he donated to UC, because had he not donated that land, it would rightfully be theirs.

 

[Indy_Rider]

I don't know why it's so hard for people to comprehend that you can not and should not hold people of the past to standards of today. You should judge them by the standards of their time only.

Who knows what will be considered acceptable in the future and what future atrocities we are unwillingly doing today.

Time an context always matters.

 

[mdthornb]

I don't know why it's so hard for people to comprehend that you can not and should not hold people of the past to standards of today. You should judge them by the standards of their time only.

Who knows what will be considered acceptable in the future and what future atrocities we are unwillingly doing today.

Time an context always matters.

So his name is on those buildings because he gave money to the school. But, it turns out that money was made by the humans he owned. Why should his name be on the buildings, again? Should the names of the slaves be on the buildings?

 

[Indy_Rider]

So his name is on those buildings because he gave money to the school. But, it turns out that money was made by the humans he owned. Why should his name be on the buildings, again? Should the names of the slaves be on the buildings?

You clearly are incapable of comprehending time and context.

 

[mdthornb]

You clearly are incapable of comprehending time and context.

What does that mean? He didn’t earn the money he used to get his name on the building. Only reason his name is in the buildings is the money.

 

[Indy_Rider]

What does that mean? He didn’t earn the money he used to get his name on the building. Only reason his name is in the buildings is the money.

It means you clearly don't get it.

And you keep doubling down on it.

 

[bonefish1]

So his name is on those buildings because he gave money to the school. But, it turns out that money was made by the humans he owned. Why should his name be on the buildings, again? Should the names of the slaves be on the buildings?

Are you familiar with Lilly Hall of life sciences? Do you know who the Lilly family is? Do you think the Lilly family made their fortune alone or did they have help? Should all the names of all the people the Lilly's every employed be on the buildings?

 

[bonefish1]

What does that mean? He didn’t earn the money he used to get his name on the building. Only reason his name is in the buildings is the money.

It means he was smart enough to work within the laws of those times. Found a way to make a ton of money.

I'm still waiting for your outrage to be expressed at Kamala Harris and her slave owning family.

 

[bonefish1]

What does that mean? He didn’t earn the money he used to get his name on the building. Only reason his name is in the buildings is the money.

Do you know who Thomas Jefferson is? Do you know that he owned slaves? Should every building, road, school and city named after him be changed?

 

[mdthornb]

It means he was smart enough to work within the laws of those times. Found a way to make a ton of money.

I'm still waiting for your outrage to be expressed at Kamala Harris and her slave owning family.

Why am I supposed to be outraged by Kamala Harris? Because she was born? If we are honoring the military contributions of her slave holding ancestors then we need to stop.

 

[mdthornb]

Do you know who Thomas Jefferson is? Do you know that he owned slaves? Should every building, road, school and city named after him be changed?

Is he being honored for his financial contributions that he was able to make because of the work of the humans he owned or was it because of other contributions not related to his slave holding? Suspect it is the later so I’m ok with his name being on stuff.

 

[bonefish1]

Why am I supposed to be outraged by Kamala Harris? Because she was born? If we are honoring the military contributions of her slave holding ancestors then we need to stop.

Yup, that's what I figured....she gets a pass from libs.

Do you know if your own ancestors were slave owners?

 

[bonefish1]

Is he being honored for his financial contributions that he was able to make because of the work of the humans he owned or was it because of other contributions not related to his slave holding? Suspect it is the later so I’m ok with his name being on stuff.

ha ha.... classic. So, even though he was a slave owner, he was still a good guy, so we'll look the other way.

 

[mdthornb]

Yup, that's what I figured....she gets a pass from libs.

Do you know if your own ancestors were slave owners?

A pass for what? Am I condemning other people for being ancestors of slave holders?

 

[mdthornb]

ha ha.... classic. So, even though he was a slave owner, he was still a good guy, so we'll look the other way.

Owning slaves is not ok but his name is not on those things because he owned slaves. The only reason the other dude has his name on buildings is because he owned slaves. Btw, I’m not even a fan of Jefferson

 

[bonefish1]

Owning slaves is not ok but his name is not on those things because he owned slaves. The only reason the other dude has his name on buildings is because he owned slaves. Btw, I’m not even a fan of Jefferson

How do you know McMicken's fortune was built on the backs of slaves?
Jefferson had a lot of money as well. Do you think he was the one tending the crops?