Can someone help me to understand?

[DrCoach]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

 

[Nbergbuck]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

Hospitals are not filled with equal numbers of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Not even close. The number vaxxed nationally is about 60%. If 95% were vaxxed hospitals would be largely back to normal.

 

[DrCoach]

Hospitals are not filled with equal numbers of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Not even close. The number vaxxed nationally is about 60%. If 95% were vaxxed hospitals would be largely back to normal.

The largest hospital chain in Michigan has 3,275 beds. 662 are currently filled with Covid patients. Of those, 364 are unvaccinated and the others are fully vaxed. These are facts that are not being reported but are true.

 

[Boilermaker03]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Boilermaker03]

Hospitals are not filled with equal numbers of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Not even close. The number vaxxed nationally is about 60%. If 95% were vaxxed hospitals would be largely back to normal.

Hospitals would already be close to normal if they were fully staffed.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

Sure. 441k dead since Biden took office. You either believe that or you don't. If you do, get your ****ing booster and help the country recover. If not, welcome to the idiocracy.

 

[DrCoach]

Sure. 441k dead since Biden took office. You either believe that or you don't. If you do, get your ****ing booster and help the country recover. If not, welcome to the idiocracy.

My point is that we now know with absolute certainty that these shots are no longer effective against the new variants. You make my point well by saying to get more shots! Why? When we now know that they do not stop infection, hospitalization or death? What is the point of them? They cause more harm than good, and we don’t even know about potential long term affects!

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

My point is that we now know with absolute certainty that these shots are no longer effective against the new variants. You make my point well by saying to get more shots! Why? When we now know that they do not stop infection, hospitalization or death? What is the point of them? They cause more harm than good, and we don’t even know about potential long term affects!

They do decrease chance of hospitalizations and death. You're literally brainwashed to say otherwise. The statistics are overwhelmingly in favor of the vaccinated. You want to risk it, fine, but don't spout ignorance like they cause more harm than good. That's absolutely ****ing bullshit and you deserve to be relentlessly mocked for saying it.

 

[Hausta01]

They do decrease chance of hospitalizations and death. You're literally brainwashed to say otherwise. The statistics are overwhelmingly in favor of the vaccinated. You want to risk it, fine, but don't spout ignorance like they cause more harm than good. That's absolutely ****ing bullshit and you deserve to be relentlessly mocked for saying it.

We don't know if they cause more harm than good. The data is 100% skewed in the U.S. because of almighty federal dollars. People go into hospitals with various ailments, get tested for COVID since it's required by the hospitals, and now said person is a COVID hospitalization. We have no idea if said patient is hospitalized because of of it, or just happened to have it and had to go to the hospital.

And prior to mRNA "vaccines" being 100% safe, heart problems were one of the largest obstacles to getting them okayed for public use. So as we are told to get more and more of these shots, what harm is going to come later? What are we doing to an entire generation of children? We already have data that points to children, especially boys, having an increased chance of hospitalization from these shots due to heart problems than the chance of going to the hospital with COVID.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Morons.

Unvaccinated in Wisconsin hospitalized at 10x higher rate, died at 14x higher rate in December

The health department says Friday’s high number of cases is due to a change in how data are being reported.

www.wsaw.com

Inside an ICU where 70 per cent of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated

This is where the Omicron wave is starting to show its worst side: inside the ICU at Toronto General, which is filling up with critically ill COVID-19 patients, the majority of whom are unvaccinated.

www.ctvnews.ca

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

COVID-19 Cases by Vaccination Status - Coronavirus

COVID-19 Cases & Testing Dashboards COVID-19 Vaccine Dashboards On May 19, 2022, the Cases by Vaccination Status dashboard was retired. You can view cases and deaths by vaccination status on […]

www.vdh.virginia.gov

Hospitalization rates confirm COVID vaccines' benefits

This article was originally published in the Montreal Gazette In recent days, I’ve been getting some questions about something in the daily COVID-19 announcements that has many people worried. It would seem as if the number of vaccinated people getting hospitalized is going up and that they make...

www.mcgill.ca

These Charts Show That COVID-19 is Still the Pandemic of the Unvaccinated

These charts show why, despite breakthrough infections and milder symptoms overall, the Omicron variant is a major risk to the unvaccinated.

time.com

COVID-19 Breakthrough Data

Cases and hospitalizations by vaccination status

coronavirus.health.ny.gov

 

[Hausta01]

Morons.

Unvaccinated in Wisconsin hospitalized at 10x higher rate, died at 14x higher rate in December

The health department says Friday’s high number of cases is due to a change in how data are being reported.

www.wsaw.com

Inside an ICU where 70 per cent of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated

This is where the Omicron wave is starting to show its worst side: inside the ICU at Toronto General, which is filling up with critically ill COVID-19 patients, the majority of whom are unvaccinated.

www.ctvnews.ca

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

COVID-19 Cases by Vaccination Status - Coronavirus

COVID-19 Cases & Testing Dashboards COVID-19 Vaccine Dashboards On May 19, 2022, the Cases by Vaccination Status dashboard was retired. You can view cases and deaths by vaccination status on […]

www.vdh.virginia.gov

Hospitalization rates confirm COVID vaccines' benefits

This article was originally published in the Montreal Gazette In recent days, I’ve been getting some questions about something in the daily COVID-19 announcements that has many people worried. It would seem as if the number of vaccinated people getting hospitalized is going up and that they make...

www.mcgill.ca

These Charts Show That COVID-19 is Still the Pandemic of the Unvaccinated

These charts show why, despite breakthrough infections and milder symptoms overall, the Omicron variant is a major risk to the unvaccinated.

time.com

COVID-19 Breakthrough Data

Cases and hospitalizations by vaccination status

coronavirus.health.ny.gov

Didn't argue its not effective against reducing severity of COVID illness. I argued we don't know long-term impacts of continued mRNA "vaccines" given to people when we have data that shows there are issues with this type of shot. So more harm than good is not known.

 

[hunkgolden]

...the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates.

Where are you getting this info from? Goes against everything I've read and heard from actual medical professionals.

 

[Hausta01]

Where are you getting this info from? Goes against everything I've read and heard from actual medical professionals.

It sounds like he meant similar numbers, roughly 50/50 split from what he said, but about 75% of adults have gotten shots so it's a higher rate those who haven't taken the shots.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

It sounds like he meant similar numbers, roughly 50/50 split from what he said, but about 75% of adults have gotten shots so it's a higher rate those who haven't taken the shots.

Much higher. I would think Purdue grads would have a basic understanding of statistics. This thread is so monumentally disappointing.

 

[Hausta01]

Much higher. I would think Purdue grads would have a basic understanding of statistics. This thread is so monumentally disappointing.

Much higher isn't more accurate than higher. Using "much" is superfluous, as it states the same thing.

Also, not a Purdue grad. Haven't taken a single stats course since HS.

 

[guidelinesa2]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

Money and power for their ruling regime

 

[hunkgolden]

Much higher. I would think Purdue grads would have a basic understanding of statistics. This thread is so monumentally disappointing.

Yeah - my daughter works at IU Health in Lafayette and she's been saying for several weeks now that none of the COVID patients they have are vaccinated. I remember seeing a stat a few months ago that stated 95% of all covid hospitalizations were not vaxxed.

 

[DrCoach]

Where are you getting this info from? Goes against everything I've read and heard from actual medical professionals.

This is actual data from the state of Michigan. The hospital started a campaign to get more people the shot, but when individuals dig up the numbers, they found that only 11% of the beds had Covid patients and 42% of those were fully vaxed. The local state and National media will not touch those numbers with a ten foot poll!!!

 

[DrCoach]

This is actual data from the state of Michigan. The hospital started a campaign to get more people the shot, but when individuals dig up the numbers, they found that only 11% of the beds had Covid patients and 42% of those were fully vaxed. The local state and National media will not touch those numbers with a ten foot poll!!!

Here is another née one for you. Britain just canceled Covid today! No more vax cards, no more mandates. Everyone back to work! All because of just what I started this thread about! The shots don’t work, and the latest variant is no more deadly than the common cold! It’s almost over folks! Just need to get the money grabbers out of the way. It will be fun to see how long they try to keep the walls up on this now!

 

[DrCoach]

Yeah - my daughter works at IU Health in Lafayette and she's been saying for several weeks now that none of the COVID patients they have are vaccinated. I remember seeing a stat a few months ago that stated 95% of all covid hospitalizations were not vaxxed.

That is categorically and absolutely untrue! I have an aunt that works at that same facility and we have been arguing the numbers and she is on your side, but even she says that a little less than 30% are fully vaxed. I did get her to admit that another 20% or so are partially vaxed. That is a number that no one knows! They don’t consider you fully vaxed until 2 weeks after your last shot!!!

 

[DrCoach]

Covid-19 policy: Leading Israeli immunologist writes open letter: "It is time to admit failure" - The Rio Times

Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter sharply criticizing the Israeli - and indeed global - management of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.riotimesonline.com

 

[DrCoach]

Covid-19 policy: Leading Israeli immunologist writes open letter: "It is time to admit failure" - The Rio Times

Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter sharply criticizing the Israeli - and indeed global - management of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.riotimesonline.com

Now Starbucks is no longer requiring the vax! This thing is ending!

 

[hunkgolden]

This is actual data from the state of Michigan. The hospital started a campaign to get more people the shot, but when individuals dig up the numbers, they found that only 11% of the beds had Covid patients and 42% of those were fully vaxed. The local state and National media will not touch those numbers with a ten foot poll!!!

Link?

 

[hunkgolden]

Now Starbucks is no longer requiring the vax! This thing is ending!

I just buried a life long friend last Thursday who died from COVID. He was 58 and not vaxxed. I'll be sure to tell his wife, daughter, and son that COVID is over.

 

[PurdueFan1]

I just buried a life long friend last Thursday who died from COVID. He was 58 and not vaxxed. I'll be sure to tell his wife, daughter, and son that COVID is over.

You and I will never agree on 99% of anything (that number might be low lol) but we have 100% common ground here. I will never ever understand how anyone can downplay this virus and the global and local impact it’s had and continues to have. It’s unforgivable.

I’m so sorry about the loss of your friend. Hopefully, if nothing else, his loss spurs others who were hesitant about the vaccine to get one.

 

[SKYDOG]

Now Starbucks is no longer requiring the vax! This thing is ending!

Must be having problems keeping stores open.

 

[SKYDOG]

I just buried a life long friend last Thursday who died from COVID. He was 58 and not vaxxed. I'll be sure to tell his wife, daughter, and son that COVID is over.

Extremely sorry to hear of this. Everyone has different opinions and life experiences. Unfortunately, I know just as many friends and friends of friends that died from covid not vaxxed versus being vaxxed. From these real life experiences, I’m not sure how good these vaccines are. Maybe my real life experiences are abnormally rare on this. I am concerned about the possible long term effects from these shots.

 

[tjreese]

Much higher. I would think Purdue grads would have a basic understanding of statistics. This thread is so monumentally disappointing.

What may be confounded in the data and I don't know that it is...is the general health of those with and without the shots. Obviously there are those that in both groups that may vary from most in each group. If we assume that those that generally are concerned about health are healthier are more likely to get the shots, then the results are confounded in the variables not measured but hidden inside the data of those with either having the shots or not. Likewise, if we assume that those not as interested in the shots...and again there are outliars in that data are not as interested in their overall health, then it would be reasonable to see more of them in the hospital since we know age, excessive weight and the many comorbidities...many a side product of excessive weight and not eating well, then we think we know something that may not be as clear as needed. Now, you hope that a large enough sample washes that out, but that would only be true if there was not a highly correlated relationship between those not wanting the shots in general and their overall health versus those maybe more prone to their personal health and those results.

I am in no way suggesting that is the difference. It is just something I wonder about and haven't read anything on the possible relationship. There is a lot of money being made reacting to this virus in a lot of ways and that always has to be in the background of though,t since we know high tech and the media have lost what little credibility we might have thought they had years ago in the biased reporting.

 

[ecouch]

When this pandemic began, and we got these shots (not true vaccines). They told us to get them to slow the spread and save lives to end the pandemic. Now that we know that they do not prevent the spread, and actually perpetuate it because that that have the shots are not tested, the hospitals are filled with shot and no shot people are nearly similar rates. Why are they still pushing us to get it? If close to 80% are vaxed, what good is more shots going to do? Why are they not giving us the real statistics? Why is no one pushing to change the narrative? We now know that even if everyone gets the shot, it will not stop this, what is the end game here?

Bill Gates is infecting you with Windows Cell.

Truly.

Look it up.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Bill Gates is infecting you with Windows Cell.

Truly.

Look it up.

He was definitely trying to infect some female subordinates