Bulldogs can M. Richt. Huge mistake!
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why? dont you think georgia shoud win the sec and be one of the top 4 teams sometimes. ok with losing 3 games a year.
georgia
2015 9-3
2014 10-3
2013 8-5
2012 12-2
2011 10-4
2010 6-7
2009 8-5
63-29. thats great for a lot of teams but with the amount of talent georgia gets dont think it is not good enough
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This is what comes with the job in the SEC. Win the title or you're gone. He's probably going to get an offer from S Carolina or Miami. UGA's expectations are so high that it'll be a tough job for anybody coming in.
Let's bring him to West Lafayette.
Bo Pelini DC.
BOOM.
Seriously tho, I'd take Richt in a nanosecond. Georgia was much worse off before he got there.
Bo Pelini DC.
BOOM.
Seriously tho, I'd take Richt in a nanosecond. Georgia was much worse off before he got there.
I wonder if Richt would consider coming here? It seems to be a great fit for both sides. I'm not sure he will have a ton of interest from other big conference teams, and he could continue coaching making a good salary with less pressure.
I don't see any way a relatively successful, relatively high profile coach would leave the warmth and recruiting advantage of southern football to come to this mess. Besides that he'd have to wait a couple of years until we have an opening.
Would love to get Richt to Purdue.. Burke doesn't have the nads to pull that off though. I bet he didn't even make a phone call.
I don't see him coming north. He graduated from Miami and was an assistant at FSU. Miami seems most likely, but South Carolina is also a possibility.
I didn't know he graduated from Miami but I'm not sure he is a "flashy" enough of a hire for what that program seems to be looking for. South Carolina fans probably wouldn't be thrilled about a guy who was just fired in the same conference.
I don't think he would get along with Burke either and it was a pretty unrealistic thought. He just seems like it would be too good a fit to not pick up the phone. Our program would get instant credibility with recruits. Richt can build a program the right way and in a few years would be able to compete on the easier side of the BIG.
I don't think he would get along with Burke either and it was a pretty unrealistic thought. He just seems like it would be too good a fit to not pick up the phone. Our program would get instant credibility with recruits. Richt can build a program the right way and in a few years would be able to compete on the easier side of the BIG.
South Carolina is a little like Purdue when it comes to expectations. Spurrier has led them to a few fair seasons and a couple of good wins but they've been only an average SEC team for quite some time. Richt's record is better than what they've had and he'd likely be acceptable to them. He probably wouldn't be the #1 choice but few schools have the $$$ or the history to command the #1 choice without working for it.
As a UGA alum i'll weigh in.
Mark Richt would be the best thing that could possibly ever happen to this program. He's a fantastic recruiter and would put us head and shoulders over most teams in the West. He would easily be the best coach on our side of the conference. Winning recruiting battles would lead to us winning games and would lead to us not being as awful as we are. He's a deeply religious man and isn't afraid to discipline the bad apples on the team, even if it is to the on field detriment of the team. While he has had a lot of arrests over his tenure, he punishes his players justly and fairly....unlike most other SEC schools and has a low tolerance for BS.
The donors would love him. The players would love him. The fans would come watch his teams because they would be ultra competitive.
Downsides......runs an old school "pro-style" offense and it would take him many years to recruit the talent to make it work for us. Loves to line up and pound you. His big problem this year was having a Caleb TerBush type QB that was strictly a game manager and never asked to make plays down the field....and often times when they did there would be a timely fumble, drop or interception to stop any momentum they had.
That said, he has had some good D Coordinators in his tenure. The #1 overall QB in the country is comitted to UGA and is a huge Richt fan. Maybe he will follow him wherever Richt lands?
All of this said, I think Richt will take a year off and take an internal, admin type position this year at UGA. He is heavily involved in the Athens, GA community and it will be tough for him to cut those ties so quick. That means, his potential timeline for coaching might align with our dumping of Hazell finally after next year. That said, the longer he is out there on the market, the more teams that will be looking for a coach will be burning up his phone line and backing the Brinks trucks up to get him.
While I don't think he could bring Purdue a national championship I firmly feel he could take us to Indy 2-3 times if he were here for 10 years.
Mark Richt would be the best thing that could possibly ever happen to this program. He's a fantastic recruiter and would put us head and shoulders over most teams in the West. He would easily be the best coach on our side of the conference. Winning recruiting battles would lead to us winning games and would lead to us not being as awful as we are. He's a deeply religious man and isn't afraid to discipline the bad apples on the team, even if it is to the on field detriment of the team. While he has had a lot of arrests over his tenure, he punishes his players justly and fairly....unlike most other SEC schools and has a low tolerance for BS.
The donors would love him. The players would love him. The fans would come watch his teams because they would be ultra competitive.
Downsides......runs an old school "pro-style" offense and it would take him many years to recruit the talent to make it work for us. Loves to line up and pound you. His big problem this year was having a Caleb TerBush type QB that was strictly a game manager and never asked to make plays down the field....and often times when they did there would be a timely fumble, drop or interception to stop any momentum they had.
That said, he has had some good D Coordinators in his tenure. The #1 overall QB in the country is comitted to UGA and is a huge Richt fan. Maybe he will follow him wherever Richt lands?
All of this said, I think Richt will take a year off and take an internal, admin type position this year at UGA. He is heavily involved in the Athens, GA community and it will be tough for him to cut those ties so quick. That means, his potential timeline for coaching might align with our dumping of Hazell finally after next year. That said, the longer he is out there on the market, the more teams that will be looking for a coach will be burning up his phone line and backing the Brinks trucks up to get him.
While I don't think he could bring Purdue a national championship I firmly feel he could take us to Indy 2-3 times if he were here for 10 years.
You guys cant be serious? He isn't coming to Purdue! This is like saying let's get Saban and pay him $15,000,000. It isn't gonna happen as much as I like Richt..
I don't realistically think he's coming....but I also realistically think that the last thing he wants to do is hop back into the SEC meat grinder where averaging 9.6 wins over 15 years just isn't enough to keep your job.
He might be content with being an admin...and if so, I don't want him. That said, I think that at 55 he isn't done and would be ready to take on another job where if he wins 9 games he doesn't get canned and instead gets statues and road signs erected in his honor!
The $EC is much easier to win in than the B1G. Saban was our bitch while he was at MSU (even losing to Colletto fer crying out loud). He was only better than fifth place in the conference one time. Gets to the $EC and is dominant.
Gerry DiNardo was 9-22 AT VANDY vs $EC foes. Even with the cupcakes iu schedules he could only go 8-27 overall.
I wouldn't expect Richt to have any more success on the field for Purdue than Akers had when he came up here. We don't have the machine behind us the southern schools have.
Gerry DiNardo was 9-22 AT VANDY vs $EC foes. Even with the cupcakes iu schedules he could only go 8-27 overall.
I wouldn't expect Richt to have any more success on the field for Purdue than Akers had when he came up here. We don't have the machine behind us the southern schools have.
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Maybe Texas fans have something to say about this? I haven't seen a lot of good coaches who had good careers at a school get rushed out and have things end up so much better...
Look at cooper at Ohio state. He wasn't rushed out. It was just very obvious things had run their course. Come on, be truthful ... If you watch that 2000 Buckeye team do you think he was pushed out?
To me, good things are more likely when schools make good hires when it's just obvious a good thing is over or after disasters...
It hasn't been the case after the departure of guys like Larry Coker, Lloyd Carr, Mack brown and joe tiller
Had tiller slipped? Yes. Wash he as committed? No. But I think it was exacerbated by all of us having ants in our pants. I often wonder what would have happened if there was less pressure, no coach in waiting and tiller had similar years to 07 in 08 and 09 and then it was just blatantly obvious to all parties at some point late in the 09 season..
I don't know how much it was just Saban as it was Saban at LSU and Alabama; they are different places than MSU - even more so then than now.
If Richt came to Purdue (I'd say there's less than a 1% chance that he would), he would have more success than Hazell or Hope, but I don't think he would average 9 wins a year. He's a good coach, I'm sure, but Purdue is not Georgia. Indiana is a much smaller talent pool from which to draw, and there are more (relative) powerhouses close by to take them.
we'd have a better chance in getting Mack Brown, and yes he wants to get back into coaching.
I think we would eventually get to be 9-10 win successful. He is an SEC/Urban Meyer level recruiter without all of the baggage. We would beat out Ill., NW, Iowa (unless they win the NC or go to the final), Indiana, Minnesota and other teams on our historical level for talent and build from there.
Tiller was successful, not because he pulled guys from top 10 schools but because he held his own recruiting vs. his peers and then developed that talent. While I don't think Richt is quite the development guy that Tiller was he is easily 2x the recruiter and would do well for us.
He (and his big salary) would immediately erase all doubt about Purdue not being serious about building a football winner wheras you can look at Illinos and Minnesota and question if they are serious about winning since they both hired internally and weren't interested in spending money to take a step up and be competitive. Richt is best in the living rooms of 17 and 18 year olds...and that frankly is at the moment where this team is NOT competing (since we got rid of our OC problem yesterday) I would say moreso than on the field results....which would definitely be better with that better talent.
I agree that Richt would be a home run hire, but how do we know how great a
Recruiter he really is, when he has spent virtually all of his career at Georgia and Florida State?
It's like when people talk about how great a recruiter Lane Kiffin is, but his whole career has been spent at USC, Tennessee, and Alabama.
People commit to him and not the school in many cases.
He has the #1 QB commuted to UGA right now and I see that likely changing at some point before signing day and if Richt landed at a new program he would likely follow.
As good as Georgia the state is talent wise, there are plenty of high D1 prospects and the entire SEC comes and tries to raid the state every year and Richt has done a pretty good job of keeping his classes ranked from about #3-#8 on a yearly basis.
Plenty of kids still get away but a coach that wasn't a good recruiter doesn't do well here. Paul Johnson doesn't care about recruiting in state and look where his classes are. Just because a school is in the state doesn't mean kids will immediately go!
cooper was fired because he couldnt beat michigan he was 111-43-4 at osu. loyd carr told the michigan a.d. he wanted to retire 2 years before he did. the a.d. talked him into staying for a couple years. in the meantime that a.d. did not even begin to look for the next head coach. loyd carr stopped recuiting the last 2 years and you had a less talented michigan and a michigan a.d. not doing his job. the next michigan hire was a very bad hire. hoke had 2 winning seasons in 8 years before michigan.
Forget Rich Rodriguez? You can pretend you were a fly on the wall all you want. Here's what's in common... unsatisfied fan bases pushing and then finding out that the "hot new hire" was not their savior. And yes, in many cases, they find out that they didn't even have a hot new hire (us).
All I'm saying is I see better results when programs have either hit rock bottom or allowed things to run their course.
You argued Lloyd Carr and Cooper as though I was coming from the same place on both when I was actually coming from opposite places. They pushed with Carr. "Good" just wasn't good enough. With Cooper, there was more of a feel that it had just run its course. They had talent, but there was no identity. It wasn't like they had non-descript QBs who played smart football in a nod to their top notch defense. With Cooper, the defense didn't seem that top notch despite the talent (nothing approaching Tressel's defenses), and the QBs were just nondescript.
And then you get Tressel. Tressel's hire never said to me, "try to hit the home run, because this sucker MC we have here just keeps getting those boring old singles over and over."
You can sub the names in and out and whatever... here's the thing. It's a behavior thing.
Good program hits a better stride when it's time?
Or a program desperate to be better than they should be at the present juncture flailing away in desperation for that big hit..
If his classes are really rated that high year in and year out, but he only finishes in the top 4 a couple of times, I think we can all see what will happen to him at Purdue...
We need a coach who consistently gets his teams to play at a level above their recruiting rankings.
He also plays week in and week out vs. top talent and top coaches.
Purdue....well....not so much...and we still lose. Better talent would help us immensely.
Going after good MAC coaches isn't going to work.
Yeah I agree and this guy has competed at a very high level and has a long history of success. He may be looking for a place to coach where he can be rewarded for winning without necessarily winning championships by not having to worry about his job. Shoot with his record we'd rename the town after him.
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