Brohm QB
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"ever" ... as in, your lifetime, or as in ... "ever"?
we've had multi-purpose QBs in the past.
I thought it interesting with all the recruits hat left last year, that Sipe remained.
Can somebody explain what happened to Sindelar once he stepped on our campus? he was tremendous in high school, albeit his competition wasn't great. but in his limited appearances at Purdue he has looked less than mediocre, and at times confused as to who and where to throw the ball. I was rooting for Sindelar ever since he committed, but it appears this is Blough's team now, and his successor will probably be Plummer.
Can somebody explain what happened to Sindelar once he stepped on our campus? he was tremendous in high school, albeit his competition wasn't great. but in his limited appearances at Purdue he has looked less than mediocre, and at times confused as to who and where to throw the ball. I was rooting for Sindelar ever since he committed, but it appears this is Blough's team now, and his successor will probably be Plummer.
Sipe may simply enjoy the potential competition and may realize his path may be more educational than athletically. If he feels his major at Purdue is the best academically he could get given the doors he opened for himself athletically, there is nothing wrong going to a place knowing you may be a backup.
That train of thought seems to have worked out fantastically for Karl Burgeller at Purdue. He was Drew Brees' backup and then backup to Kyle Orton as well. Got his degree from Purdue and is now one of th highest ranking employees for Jimmy John's and helped Drew Bree's open his 7 JJ's in New Orleans. He could have easily gone to a smaller school and been a starter (played with him on the now defunct Lafayette Lions Semi Pro Team) and he was the best player whenever he stepped on the field.
It appears that a couple people on here haven't watched Sipe's highlights. He's really good and will be a future starter at Purdue. Count on it.
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Jared Sparks is our current multi-purpose QB. He will likely be the starter after Blough. Then Sipe. Then Plummer.
Sparks has a legit shot at being the backup this season instead of Sindelar.
Unfortunately for Sindelar this looks to be the case.
Sindelar was never the most mobile. Add in a torn ACL at the very end(I believe) of his senior year. Really hurt his potential if you ask me. Kid still has alive arm. None of us know if it finally clicks for him with some actual coaching here now.
I believe Sipe could be a great QB. Sindelar could be a great QB. Plummer could be great. Sparks would make a great back-up. And I believe Brohm could develop all of them with his coaching ability. however, I don't believe Brohm is looking for a succession of 1 year QBs. I believe he's looking to build around a 3 year starter. That could be Sipe of Plummer.
I have no inside info, just a gut feeling.
I have no inside info, just a gut feeling.
Alstott seems to be a forgotten man. As we talk about Sindelar, Sparks and Sipe as backups. And talk about Plummer as the future. It would appear Allstott is 5th on the current depth chart behind Blough, Sindelar, Sparks and Sipe. I asked a couple of months ago with his athleticism, could Allstott be looked at for a different position possibly as a RB, since he also ran as a QB. but others suggested he was too slow to be a RB. Could he follow in Henry's footsteps? I would rather have recruited a true TE than recruited a QB and then try to convert him to another position. It seems me to he will redshirt this year regardless, but I'd hate for him to waste his redshirt year as a QB if the end result is he's going to convert to a different position. Is it normal for a team to have 5 QBs on the roster?
An incoming coach pulling a scholly from arguably one of the best five players in program history's oldest son would have been a PR nightmare. I went to practice today and he is clearly behind Sipe who took third string snaps in 11 v 11 with the 3's working against each other. Alstott got a few snaps and threw an INT. With Plummer coming in, likely it'll be Sipe and Plummer battling for the starting job after Blough leaves and if Sparks isn't chosen as a senior.
Blough, Sindelar, Sparks, Sipe, Alstott and I'm sure I may be missing a couple. It's a tough spot to be in, I don't believe you keep 5 in the program, Brohm has to figure something out, add in Plummer next year, well who knows, I wish them all the very best. It's gonna be interesting for sure.
I totally agree, we had to give Alstott a scholarship. And he has a lot of talent and athleticism. He was a tremendous option QB in high school. But he seems very low on our current and future depth charts. Next year it appears Sipe will be battling Sindelar to be the starter with Plummer waiting in the wings, and Sparks as an emergency backup.
I believe it's a given Allstott will redshirt this year. But rather than wasting this year trying to become a future QB, if he is going to redshirt, I would think for his growth, he should start learning a new position.
Agree that Danielson was a terrific multi-purpose QB and underrated by most. DeMoss introduced the wishbone at Purdue in '72 and Bo Brobowski was the #1 wishbone QB. Bo was tall and built like a linebacker but couldn't throw accurately so he wasn't effective in the "I" formation. Danielson mainly ran the "I". In the return game against Washington in '72, Danielson ran all over the Huskies in the 1st H and Purdue was up 21-0, but apparently Danielson had the flu and got so sick at the half he couldn't play the 2nd H. So Bo went in and the ran the wishbone. Washington came back behind Sonny Sixkiller and won 22-21. I still remember the walk back to our car with my grandfather after that heart break. He was distraught! That '72 team never caught a break and still went 6-5. But that was a major disappointment for a team that had been ranked in the top 10 by many preseason magazines and it cost DeMoss his job.
Absolutely, have had several multi-purpose QB's in the last 50 years. (Never say never! or in your case, don't ever say ever.)
Our "grave of QB's" is full of multi-threat guys (Hance, Kirsch, Henry, Siller). Granted, none of them were elite, but the elite guys usually end up at OSU or somewhere with shady recruiting practices anyway. Stick with the Brees/Orton model. Mobility is good but the ability to read defenses is more important (and more teachable). Recruit a good passer every year and play the one that shines the brightest.
Hance and kirsch were elite recruits. Kirsch was fine until tiller changed the offense.
Both were very good recruits, no doubt. Elite may be a stretch. Regardless they did not have elite running ability, which is what makes a dual threat QB a real dual threat.
Hance was a top 100 recruiting a top 10 qb in his class.
Kirsch was a 4 star and ranked as the 12th best pro style qb
Yeah, maybe it wasn't right to call them dual threat QBs, but Hance was being dubbed as a more mobile version of Brees, and Kirsch was far more mobile than Orton.
1) kirsch won a lot of games in his first two years. I think the scheme change did him in. He was not suited to the new offense they tried in 2005
2) were putting blough in Brees realm now?
Next year, it would be the exact same group, plus Plummer, battling for starting spot. Blough would be a senior next season. Sindelar, a junior, Sparks, soph, Sipe/Alstott, R-fr.
this was a criticism I had of Hazell overloading people at one position. I understand the need to recruit at least 1 QB for each class. In many years, the QB commits early and helps draw in other recruits via twitter, etc. But having 6 QBs on scholarship? my hope is his red shirt year is not wasted learning a position he never play.
I agree that Purdue's history with dual-threat quarterbacks hasn't been that great. The closest we've seen to success since about 1990 has probably been guys like Eric Hunter, Drew Brees, and Robert Marve -- all of whom were more traditional pocket passers who were mobile and athletic enough to develop into serviceable runners.
But, I don't think it follows that Purdue should never recruit dual-threat qbs, especially in this era of spreading everybody out on offense and using the entire field. I don't think Brohm should force that style at Purdue, but if the right guy comes along...
The more I think about this the more (I think) I see an interesting trend emerge. I'll limit this to the past 10 years or so as to not conflate the issue with the quarterbacks in the option offenses of yesteryear..
When it comes to the true mobile/dual threat college QB's, there have been truly elite ones - Mike Vick, Lamar Jackson, Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Pat White, etc. Virtually all of these guys are blue chip recruits due to their elite "can't miss" athleticism. Whereas, some pocket passing QBs may not have been as highly recruited, but became elite QB's (see Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers) and many, many others became very good QB's.
If you are not one of the elite schools, you probably can't count on getting the next Vince Young. But you can try to find the next Drew Brees. I don't think it is coincidental that we've not had much luck with mobile QB's. I think the trend shows that unless you can recruit one of the elite athletes of the class, you are better off recruiting mid level pocket QBs than mid level dual threat QBs.
So yes, if one of these elite mobile QBs fall into your lap you customize your offense for them, which I think Brohm would do. But not some guy who runs a 4.7 40 who is considered dual threat because he can run by high school linebackers.
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Plummer will redshirt as most QBs do when they're behind a known starter. Unless Blough loses his job somehow.
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