Brock Spack
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Which was terrible. BTW
I think Purdue, with like $2.2-$2.4mil to spend EASILY lands whatever MAC coach they want. It's not a sexy way to go, but better programs have more to offer the better guys....more than money can buy too. There's always been a pecking order and there will always be one.
That said, if Purdue does snap up a good one, we could afford to pay whatever it took to keep him. So that's good news there!
I just don't like hiring a guy from the Missouri Valley conference. Its a lot different playing teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska compared to Indiana State. But if he gets the job done then so be it.
I like Lincoln Riley. Maybe a year or 2
early for him to get a B1G job, but that's what we might need to do to get a rising star.
early for him to get a B1G job, but that's what we might need to do to get a rising star.
Any idea as to who Shack would hire for coordinators? And what kind of identity does his current team have? Is he a defense and run the ball guy etc... just looking for any info since he has become a head coach.
Shack? I heard he would hire Kobe to be his offensive coordinator, and would try to pound the ball inside with a power offense.
I refuse to think about Brock Spack as Purdue's next Head Coach.
Just remember Ohio State hired Jim Tressel directly from Youngstown State (although he did win 4 championships), no other stops in between.
He should have been hired instead of Hope.
Spack was a key part of an incredibly successful era in Purdue football. Purdue football was actually fun back then.
Having been an All Big Ten player at Purdue, he knows and loves the institution. And he has taken the ISU program to an entirely new level, competing for the national championship last year. He expects a toughness from his players that Purdue has not had in many years.
I know a former IN high school football coach who thinks the world of Brock, and who appreciated how hard Brock worked the high school coaching crowd at annual conferences. At some point, Purdue football let these high school relationships die. Purdue has got to get a better foothold in the state after Hope's dumb "futuristic recruiting plan" conceded the state's strong players to programs outside of Indiana.
Brock was the natural choice after Tiller, but Tiller's flame had burnt out when Burke refused to used increased football revenue to retain strong assistant coaches. The program was not experiencing the same success it did in the early Tiller years, and Burke went outside the program.
A stable, capable Purdue man who fully understands Purdue's unique challenges and strengths looks pretty good right now. But there is no guarantee Spack will come back given his attractiveness to other programs and Purdue's recent lack of success. We are not exactly a desired job right now.
Having been an All Big Ten player at Purdue, he knows and loves the institution. And he has taken the ISU program to an entirely new level, competing for the national championship last year. He expects a toughness from his players that Purdue has not had in many years.
I know a former IN high school football coach who thinks the world of Brock, and who appreciated how hard Brock worked the high school coaching crowd at annual conferences. At some point, Purdue football let these high school relationships die. Purdue has got to get a better foothold in the state after Hope's dumb "futuristic recruiting plan" conceded the state's strong players to programs outside of Indiana.
Brock was the natural choice after Tiller, but Tiller's flame had burnt out when Burke refused to used increased football revenue to retain strong assistant coaches. The program was not experiencing the same success it did in the early Tiller years, and Burke went outside the program.
A stable, capable Purdue man who fully understands Purdue's unique challenges and strengths looks pretty good right now. But there is no guarantee Spack will come back given his attractiveness to other programs and Purdue's recent lack of success. We are not exactly a desired job right now.
Purdue needs someone that can successfully rebuild the crap fest the current football program has turned in to. I just don't think Spack is it, I like Brock, but he would be in a giant hole and not sure he has the skills or experience needed to dig us out.
You pretty much "NAILED IT"! Love to see us get Spack! I was a freshman when he was a senior at Purdue. Tough hard nosed player and coaches the same way...............just needs to bring an innovative "O-CORD" with him...........
As long as Morgan Burke is AD it is HIGHLY unlikely that he will return to Purdue.
Spack also over saw a lot of under achieving defenses that did have NFL talent on them, that's why he got passed over the first time. His success now is tied to a Big 10 QB transferring there, so there are still questions about how he could do against tougher competition where he will not have a talent advantage.
Keep an eye on Lance Leipold at Buffalo, too. Proven track record in D3, seemingly doing well jumping to D1.
I would be willing to let IBM Watson coach at this point over DH.
Good idea as soon as we apply for membership in FCS as he is successful there. If we want to continue in the BT and FBS I think we need a FBS level coach. If Spack were that guy, he would have left ISU by now.
This is a very good point. Spack's defenses were comparatively loaded with talent and, with a couple exceptions, were underachievers. Spack was far from popular with many fans here.
Toledo's Campbell is the coach we should go after. Another young guy would be Mike Norvell.
Spack's defense's were really good from 2000-2004, and yes they were loaded with NFL talent. Spack deserves some credit though because he had to have a pretty big hand in identifying and recruiting that talent being the DC and that's half the battle.
My very uninformed opinion would be that he's too conservative a coach, but I say that not having followed his post Purdue career that closely. As a DC from what I remember he was fairly conservative, rarely blitzed (which worked when his front 4 could consistently get pressure, a la 2000-2004) and his defenses suffered in his final years because of it. I just think Purdue needs to higher a young, aggressive, innovator and Spack just doesn't seem to fit that mold.
Really like Mike Norvell (I've seen a few mention him on here) and I think he fits that description to the bill. If we could get him, and that's a big if, we probably wouldn't be able to keep him if he was successful but that seems like something that should be the least of our worries at this point.
I'm the guy who is always mentioning Norvell. He's young, almost 34, runs a high octane O, is a QB coach too, was a receivers coach at Tulsa in 08 when they had Damaris Johnson and led the country in a lot of O categories. During his first year at ASU, the QB, RB, TE positions set school marks in offense. He's a tireless worker, believes in discipline, and has a good rapport w/ the young kids. I'm not worried if he would be successful and then move on. I just want to see some success first.
The only problem I have getting another hot MAC coach is we did that already. I was originally impressed with DH and the staff he put together, except Shoop of course since I live in suburban Chicago.
I would like to see an offense that can successfully complete a forward pass.
I would like to see an offense that can successfully complete a forward pass.
I don't think you can say we did it once and it didn't work so we shouldn't do it again. Plenty of successful head coaches have come from the MAC.
Will it excite/ignite the fan base? Maybe not. But there's plenty of things a coaching staff can do to draw interest.
I know it's not necessarily a popular thing on this forum, but I wouldn't mind either an associate head coach from a good program - or a, gasp, defensive coach. The Big Ten is not full of overpowering offenses. Put a good defense out there and you have a chance to win a lot more games.
I don't care about the offense/defense, but he's nothing overly special. His level of success may get him a lower conference type of job. But he's not Big Ten head coach material.
Do you have any preference on our new coach having a defensive or offensive background? Or is it just general experience you're looking for?
I want a coach, unlike either DH, that was a coordinator at some point in D1 football. I want a guy who has a system. HIS system. Be it offense or defense, just someone who has called a play before.
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