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BSIT

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Just hope she never takes over for Biden and that’s saying a lot

 
Just hope she never takes over for Biden and that’s saying a lot

And we have people on this board that are still glad they voted for these leaders. It’s just hilarious that people are being slaughtered every day in Ukraine.
 
And we have people on this board that are still glad they voted for these leaders. It’s just hilarious that people are being slaughtered every day in Ukraine.
Well it's obviously Biden's fault. I'm noting your lack of condemnation of the guy who is actually in charge of the slaughter. Jfc
 
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Well it's obviously Biden's fault. I'm noting your lack of condemnation of the guy who is actually in charge of the slaughter. Jfc
Serious question: Do you think we'd have been better off keeping Trump's energy policies? Additionally, do you think Ukraine would have been better off if they were given weapons they have been asking for over a year? Instead of being proactive, Biden is forced to be reactive.
 
Serious question: Do you think we'd have been better off keeping Trump's energy policies? Additionally, do you think Ukraine would have been better off if they were given weapons they have been asking for over a year? Instead of being proactive, Biden is forced to be reactive.
Biden is like a driver over 75 who drives using only his rear view mirrors. He doesn’t know what damage he causes until he sees it in his rear view mirror. He also has zero ability to foresee what his policies will do to the economy or geopolitical landscape.
 
Biden is like a driver over 75 who drives using only his rear view mirrors. He doesn’t know what damage he causes until he sees it in his rear view mirror. He also has zero ability to foresee what his policies will do to the economy or geopolitical landscape.
And he has been taken hostage by the environmental wackos of the party
 
Serious question: Do you think we'd have been better off keeping Trump's energy policies? Additionally, do you think Ukraine would have been better off if they were given weapons they have been asking for over a year? Instead of being proactive, Biden is forced to be reactive.
This is spot on. Had the US given the weapons a year earlier, this may have prevented all the suffering and deaths the Ukraine people are suffering through. This is just another administration misstep as they continue to mount.
 
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Just hope she never takes over for Biden and that’s saying a lot

What amazes me is how people with these big of blind spots make it to this level. It happens in corporations more often than not, and obviously in politics. There has to be some sort of personality disorder that lends itself to positions of power...
 
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This is spot on. Had the US given the weapons a year earlier, this may have prevented all the suffering and deaths the Ukraine people are suffering through. This is just another administration misstep as they continue to mount.
So Putin wouldn't have invaded if Ukraine had more stingers and javelins?
 
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So Putin wouldn't have invaded if Ukraine had more stingers and javelins?
Well, if Clinton wouldn't have taken away their nukes, never would have happened. What we've seen from Bill Clinton's policies is a strengthened Chinese economy and military due to their admission in the WTO, as well as Russian aggression due to nuke removal in Ukraine. All in the name of Clinton globalism...

"In 1993, International relations theorist and University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer published an article including his prediction that a Ukraine without any nuclear deterrent was likely to be subjected to aggression by Russia, but this was very much a minority view at the time.[8]"
 
Well, if Clinton wouldn't have taken away their nukes, never would have happened. What we've seen from Bill Clinton's policies is a strengthened Chinese economy and military due to their admission in the WTO, as well as Russian aggression due to nuke removal in Ukraine. All in the name of Clinton globalism...

"In 1993, International relations theorist and University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer published an article including his prediction that a Ukraine without any nuclear deterrent was likely to be subjected to aggression by Russia, but this was very much a minority view at the time.[8]"
So your answer is no........and you're looking for another dem to blame.

Do some research on the circumstances at the time and how Ukraine felt at the time about giving up the nukes........before you leap to conclusions.
 
So Putin wouldn't have invaded if Ukraine had more stingers and javelins?
Obama/Biden = Crimea. Trump = nothing except being accused of doing something shady by getting Ukraine tank killer missiles. Biden = Ukraine invaded, Trump energy policies reversed making US / Europe more dependent on Russia energy, open negotiations with Iran/Russia for Iran nuclear program, etc………..
 
So your answer is no........and you're looking for another dem to blame.

Do some research on the circumstances at the time and how Ukraine felt at the time about giving up the nukes........before you leap to conclusions.

Doesn't matter how anyone felt or what the circumstances were at the time. They made bad decisions and now we're all paying for it, especially the Ukrainians...

And Clinton's globalist oriented economic decisions were also disastrous (NAFTA, China in WTO)...
 
So Putin wouldn't have invaded if Ukraine had more stingers and javelins?
He probably wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, if we had a President with a clue & a spine.
-- Putin took Crimea with Obama & Biden in the WH.
-- Putin didn't expand his territory with Trump in the WH.
-- Putin is trying to take Ukraine with Biden in the WH.

Can you connect the dots, Bob? Could it be that with 2 of the 3 Presidents, he wasn't afraid of repercussions?

When Ukraine asked for weapons, Obama gave them blankets and MREs.
Trump gave them stingers and javelins.
Biden dragged his feet and finally gave them more stingers and javelins.
 
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So your answer is no........and you're looking for another dem to blame.

Do some research on the circumstances at the time and how Ukraine felt at the time about giving up the nukes........before you leap to conclusions.
As I understand it, for giving up their nukes, they were promised protection by the West, if Russia attacked them. How's that working out for them?
 
Obama/Biden = Crimea. Trump = nothing except being accused of doing something shady by getting Ukraine tank killer missiles. Biden = Ukraine invaded, Trump energy policies reversed making US / Europe more dependent on Russia energy, open negotiations with Iran/Russia for Iran nuclear program, etc………..
Don't forget that Biden is negotiating with Iran, Venezuela & the Saudi's to get more oil. To give us a little more perspective about how Biden is viewed in the world, the Saudi Prince wouldn't even take his call. World leaders can smell WEAKNESS.
 
This is actually true...she must be constantly asking herself how the hell she got this far over her head
I've come to the conclusion that Ms Harris may be a nice lady but she's dumber than a bag of rocks. She is the prime example of the misguided use of identity politics when picking a candidate for the second highest position in US government. She makes Dan Quayle look like a boy genius.
 
He probably wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, if we had a President with a clue & a spine.
-- Putin took Crimea with Obama & Biden in the WH.
-- Putin didn't expand his territory with Trump in the WH.
-- Putin is trying to take Ukraine with Biden in the WH.

Can you connect the dots, Bob? Could it be that with 2 of the 3 Presidents, he wasn't afraid of repercussions?

When Ukraine asked for weapons, Obama gave them blankets and MREs.
Trump gave them stingers and javelins.
Biden dragged his feet and finally gave them more stingers and javelins.
This has been covered ad nauseam here.
 
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Don't forget that Biden is negotiating with Iran, Venezuela & the Saudi's to get more oil. To give us a little more perspective about how Biden is viewed in the world, the Saudi Prince wouldn't even take his call. World leaders can smell WEAKNESS.
Everything with you guys is framed as causes come back as strength and weakness. Where did you get that from?

Do you think there could be any other factors at play? Iran, Yemen, Bin Salmon?
 
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This might be too long for some folks.
 
Biden is like a driver over 75 who drives using only his rear view mirrors. He doesn’t know what damage he causes until he sees it in his rear view mirror. He also has zero ability to foresee what his policies will do to the economy or geopolitical landscape.
Hey.....watch that shit. Old people have back up cameras now.
 
Just hope she never takes over for Biden and that’s saying a lot

It's not limited to one awkward public announcement in Poland. Every time she gets in front of a camera and speaks about any issue, she looks like a deer in the headlights. She then says something weird, or laughs, in an attempt to cover for her cluelessness. Sec of Energy Granholm does the same thing.
 
It's not limited to one awkward public announcement in Poland. Every time she gets in front of a camera and speaks about any issue, she looks like a deer in the headlights. She then says something weird, or laughs, in an attempt to cover for her cluelessness. Sec of Energy Granholm does the same thing.
She laughs....a lot. It's like a weird tick when confronted by something she doesn't comprehend, her defense mechanism is that awkward cackle.
 
Everything with you guys is framed as causes come back as strength and weakness. Where did you get that from?

Do you think there could be any other factors at play? Iran, Yemen, Bin Salmon?
I got it from about 60 years of observing world politics. When we have weak perceived leadership in the WH, geopolitical instability seems to follow.

When we have perceived strong leadership in the WH, we have more stability.

As a comedian recently said, "Can you imagine a Saudi Prince not taking a call from Trump".
 
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