Early lines that I am seeing have Boilers favored by 4 over Minnesota
Boilers Favored over Minny
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will be interesting to see how it plays out, we learned a bit about ourselves in the MI game and this one will reveal some more
Are our running backs healthy? If Fuller and Jones are good, I think we take this 28 to 21. Maryland couldn't come close to beating UCF and they beat Minnesota. If we want to have a chance at getting a bowl bid this year, we got to have this one! Would love to beat Fleck too! Go Boilers!
Appeared Minnesota had trouble with Marylands speed back. I wonder if that means more chances for Lankford-Johnson
Anyone remember the last time the Boilers were favored at home in a B1G game??????
I wonder how many folks betting on Purdue (outside of Purdue fans) understand that we have two key defensive starters sitting out suspensions the entire 1H, our #1 RB is definitely out, our #2 RB may (or may not) be back and may (or may not) be 100%, and our starting QB has an injured shoulder that kept him sidelined all last week (and probably less than full-out practice this week).
At full strength, those odds make sense to me, but we have too many question marks to feel good enough about this game to bet it.
At full strength, those odds make sense to me, but we have too many question marks to feel good enough about this game to bet it.
Both Minnesota starting safeties may be out. Got to factor that in, too.
If Purdue can have limited time on D the first half and gather a lead I think they bring the W.
First off, Jones was the clear cut #1 coming out of camp because his ability to run inside and out, pick up pass protections, and catch the ball out of the backfield...he is the only back that appeared to have that ability prior to the season. Fuller obviously surprised every one a bit. I'll bet that Jones plays and if Purdue gets out front and the combination of other backs can be effective, they will limit his snaps.
There was also an article about Blough simply having to battle through some pain but that it doesn't appear to have an effect on his ability to play up to his potential. Even if he can't go, I think Sindelar has proven his ability to lead the offense in a way that can be effective and get wins against most of the schedule that remains.
Purdue 37 Minny 27
Balanced attack with 2 running touchdowns (one from defense), 2 passing touchdowns and 3 field goals.
Team effort wins this one......
I know I will be eating ice cubes like Coach did and loving every minute of it.
Balanced attack with 2 running touchdowns (one from defense), 2 passing touchdowns and 3 field goals.
Team effort wins this one......
I know I will be eating ice cubes like Coach did and loving every minute of it.
wish the forecast would improve.
does a rain game help or hurt purdue?
especially with some ?s at RB
does a rain game help or hurt purdue?
especially with some ?s at RB
I say hurts Purdue....we need our passing game to stretch the field.
Plus we need Jones to not fumble......I cringe when he gets the ball.....love his effort but he fumbles too much....the rain doesn't help that.
Boilers still win but the rain will make it sloppy.....
I like Purdue in this game. Home game, we have been playing hard and really executing well. We played well for about 2.5 quarters against one of the best Defenses in the nation. Minny is NOT the same defense. Minny really was poor against MD, especially on D, poor tackling. The wet weather will only make tackling more difficult for them, I foresee many broken and missed tackles by the undermanned Minny secondary.
They are almost one dimensional on offense, focus on stopping the run and they will struggle.
31-17 Purdue for me.
They are almost one dimensional on offense, focus on stopping the run and they will struggle.
31-17 Purdue for me.
A sloppy game favors the team that is able to focus on the small things and do those small things well....I like Brohm's coaching ability in that aspect and the prep he has worked on since his arrival. Purdue does the small things well and typically doesn't beat itself.
When the teams are roughly equal and the weather gets crappy...I'll take Brohm and his attention to the small details over a slightly neurotic HC in Fleck (I like Fleck but his team doesn't appear to do the small things well IMO).
Not sure what to make of the weather. I think it could favor Minnesota. Purdue offense is more dependent on timing and precision. Minnesota wants to go north and south. But it is home turf for Purdue, and Minnesota is used to artificial turf. I could see their DBs getting twisted up on misdirection plays. I do think with moderate winds Sindelar and his fastballs may be more accurate downfield than Blough.
Hey Purdue fans, I'm a Gophers fan who decided to see what the other side is saying. Greetings from the Maroon and Gold!
So I love you Boiler fans, and God bless you and all, but when did Purdue get so good that you can assume wins against teams that have been better? I'm wondering what you've seen from your team, or is this just fan hubris? Maybe we just have a complex up here in MN, but our attitude tends to be the opposite - we assume losses even when our team is good.
So I love you Boiler fans, and God bless you and all, but when did Purdue get so good that you can assume wins against teams that have been better? I'm wondering what you've seen from your team, or is this just fan hubris? Maybe we just have a complex up here in MN, but our attitude tends to be the opposite - we assume losses even when our team is good.
We controlled one of college footballs most explosive player and had a chance to beat a top 25 team with less than a few minutes left on the clock in the first game.
In the second game, Purdue manhandled a top G5 team in Ohio who is expected to win the MAC title this year and had they beaten Purdue had a real chance at going undefeated. Purdue beat them like a drum even with Coach Brohm saying he took his foot off the gas.
In the third game, Purdue did something they hadn't done in a very long time: went to a P5 school on the road and beat the want to play out of a team...and again took their foot off the gas.
In their fourth game, Purdue was neck and neck with one of the best overall teams in the country. They were not overwhelmed until late in the game when the depth of Michigan took control.
Our reason for optimism is that unless a team is on the level of the OSU, Whisky, MSU, UM, or PSU this season in the conference...Purdue has a chance to win because of the ability Brohm has brought to not beat itself and to do the small things correctly. Minny's depth has taken a huge hit on the defensive side of the ball and your offense appears to be one dimensional. Those aspects fall directly in line with what Purdue does very well. On the defensive side of the ball, Purdue has done a very good job in defending the rush and forcing teams in to obvious passing downs. On the defensive side of the ball, Purdue looks to take advantage of the weaknesses in a defense through the use of 'smoke and mirrors' to confuse a defense and get their eyes moving in one direction while the play goes another. With your secondary being down two starters and corners who don't appear to be incredibly talented...Brohm will have the ability to scheme around your strengths on defense to get the matchups that he wants. Against UM, Purdue did a good job of that...but the issue there was that UM was able to counter with incredibly athleticism (Devin Bush was able to make multiple open field tackles to stop plays for 1-3 yards instead of 10-15) or adjustments.
Minny is much more along the lines of the Ohio team (probably better) Purdue controlled and beat rather than Missouri (dumpster fire) and is probably worse than UL and UM. Given those comparisons, Purdue likely should win this game given that it is at home. Minny is 3-1 but the 3 wins came against teams that are a combined 6 - 9. Of those 6 wins, Buffalo has beaten Colgate, FAU, and Kent State. The single game Minny has played against what would be considered equal or near equal talent...they were beaten 31-24 and had nearly 250 yards of rushing hung on them by a probably above-average Maryland team (their Texas win doesn't really look all that impressive IMO).
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Tiller always said rain or snow didn't matter, only wind when it came to the passing game.
Well it shouldn't matter, but it does. With wind you have elements out of your control that make throwing the ball unpredictable. With rain and snow, you have elements that potentially impede the ability of the player to catch the ball but doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to do it.
As occurred with Orton's 40 yard TD pass to Standeford in blinding snow at Michigan state in 2002.
Edit: That was an audible Orton called. Tiller was yelling no, no, no on the sidelines, which he then turned into a yes, yes, yes!
You make some good persuasive points. On the other hand, I could write a bunch of paragraphs to say that
(1) Purdue has beaten a bad team and a mediocre team and lost to the two better teams they've played.
(2) Minnesota has beaten three teams that range from bad to mediocre and lost by 7 to a team that averages 39 pts a game and pinned 51 on Texas.
Purdue has injuries, Minnesota has injuries, both teams have dynamic young coaches, blah blah...but Purdue has gone 11-40 in the last 4+ seasons and Minnesota is coming off a 9-4 campaign.
(1) Purdue has beaten a bad team and a mediocre team and lost to the two better teams they've played.
(2) Minnesota has beaten three teams that range from bad to mediocre and lost by 7 to a team that averages 39 pts a game and pinned 51 on Texas.
Purdue has injuries, Minnesota has injuries, both teams have dynamic young coaches, blah blah...but Purdue has gone 11-40 in the last 4+ seasons and Minnesota is coming off a 9-4 campaign.
Maryland was playing its third string QB....a far cry from the team that put up 51 on Texas
this will be a great game and a huge test for both teams IMO
your points are valid, but Vegas also has us -4, so it's not blind homerism to think we have a good chance to win IMO
the last 4 years were abysmal, no doubt, but i can't possibly overstate how terrible Haze was as a HC. to put it in terms you'll definitely understand, Brewster could coach circles around him 6 days a week and twice on saturday. and i'm not kidding.
really looking forward to this game. the winner will be on a good path to a bowl game and a big win for the new coach. the loser isn't cooked, but it'll make the rest of the season more challenging
I am missing all these posts that are assuming a win.
Do I need to update my browser again?
I see mostly predictions of a close game with details like which team does the weather favor coming into play.
A couple stats for you:
Purdue is third in the B1G in TO Margin at +4 (trailing only PSU and OSU). Minnesota is 5th at +2.
Purdue's total defense is ranked 75th @ 386.5 yards per game yet Minny is at #12 with 283 yards per game. These stats are a bit skewed because of your incredibly weak non-conference slat and the one team with a pulse you have played racked up 420 yards of total offense with 262 of those coming on the ground. Arguably Purdue has a better ability to run the ball than Maryland who was playing a true freshman QB who still went 18-28 for 154 yards. Purdue has more play makers on the outside and a better RB with Markell Jones returning to the lineup. The surprising thing is that Minny's run defense had been pretty stout prior to the Maryland game, but how much of that was playing against totally overwhelmed teams in Oregon State (arguably the worst P5 team this season) and MTSU. Buffalo also threw the ball 42 times and ran it 22 times...only being on the field for 23 minutes. Purdue has consistently shown an ability to get the ball, hold on to it, and have sustained drives. Minnesota's defensive depth is thin and a team that can wear them down and take advantage of what the defense gives them (Brohm's specialty as a offensive mind) favors Purdue if they can establish even a sliver of a running game that forces the LB's and S's to even creep forward a step. My guess is that Purdue looks to establish a running game and screen game that allows WR's like Mahoungo and Wright to get over the top for long plays.
Purdue's two losses to UofL and Michigan would likely be 4-0 with that schedule. Maryland isn't the same team with a freshman QB and Texas still isn't the Texas everyone wants to proclaim them to be simply because Tom Hermann is there. Give Minny the schedule has played, they'd be 2-2 at best as well.
To argue that any of your wins are against 'good teams' is laughable. Buffalo is arguably one of the worst historical programs in Division 1, MTSU is horrendous, and Oregon State has given up a minimum of 32 points per game...and that includes their 3 point slim victory against FCS Portland State who is 0-4. To say anyone in your first three games was mediocre is a gross understatement in how bad they truly are. Buffalo's three wins are against Colgate, FAU, and Kent State. The only weaker non-conference schedule in the B1G this season is Indiana and PSU .
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Fan hubris by some as a result of the exciting turn around, I think we have some good skill players but we will need to get better on the OL and DL to beat the Minnesota's, Iowa's and Nebraska's on a regular basis. I will not be surprised to see Minny come in here and win with their talent and coaching, but it is nice to feel confident that we will be in the game and not get blown out
I'll break it down for you. You are dealing with a school that has been average at best for 8 years and an absolute dumpster fire for the last 4. There are things to be excited about and he are jumping on board clinging to hope to be great again. CJB is one of the best coaches in football and has orchestrated an incredible turn around. If Purdue gets to and wins a bowl game it will be one of the most impressive turnarounds in history. The team had no fight and no direction for so long.
You are also on a Purdue site, so of course there is going to be skewed optimism. Especially when Purdue is listed as the favorite in a conference game (it's been 4 years for that).
Check back in after the game. If Purdue loses, I assure you it won't be because of our optimism. If they win, some of us may take credit, but that too has nothing to do with us. I say Purdue wins 27-16, but it's close. I think, as always with this team, Purdue needs to get out to a lead early. Especially with 2 starters suspended for the first half.
This game is the measuring stick for the season. Minnesota is a good team and it's a conference game. If Purdue manages to get a win here, a bowl seems inevitable if they continue to improve.
looks like most lines are -3.5 now
i agree it likely will be close for awhile, but hopefully purdue makes the better half time adjustments (if needed), especially if the rain arrives in the 2nd half.
pretty gusty winds around already also : (
boilermakers cover, win by 10
i agree it likely will be close for awhile, but hopefully purdue makes the better half time adjustments (if needed), especially if the rain arrives in the 2nd half.
pretty gusty winds around already also : (
boilermakers cover, win by 10
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