Blocking Out

[Mackeyman]

Whenever Purdue doesn't get a rebound, the narrative is that they didn't block out. I just want to say that rebounding is about so much more than blocking out.

Last year, there were many times on defense where everyone would block out except Biggie, who would go get the ball. He never blocked his man out on the perimeter and often long rebounds would fly over his head as he ran toward the rim. Still, he understood you have to live with giving up some long rebounds in order to go get the ball.

Generally, on this Purdue team, missed rebounds don't happen because guys are lazy and don't block out; it's that they block out but don't go get the ball.

Ultimately, somebody has to go get the ball. That's why Vince is a much better rebounder with a couple steps to the rim than when he is already under the rim. When he is under the rim and boxes out, he doesn't get off the ground himself and then his man jumps and tips the ball over him. The announcer then usually falsely makes a comment about him not blocking out.

Anyway, people have different rebounding skills. And there are different rebounding positions. Sometimes you should do nothing but block out. Sometimes you should forget blocking out altogether. But rebounding is far less about blocking out than we make it out to be.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Whenever Purdue doesn't get a rebound, the narrative is that they didn't block out. I just want to say that rebounding is about so much more than blocking out.

Last year, there were many times on defense where everyone would block out except Biggie, who would go get the ball. He never blocked his man out on the perimeter and often long rebounds would fly over his head as he ran toward the rim. Still, he understood you have to live with giving up some long rebounds in order to go get the ball.

Generally, on this Purdue team, missed rebounds don't happen because guys are lazy and don't block out; it's that they block out but don't go get the ball.

Ultimately, somebody has to go get the ball. That's why Vince is a much better rebounder with a couple steps to the rim than when he is already under the rim. When he is under the rim and boxes out, he doesn't get off the ground himself and then his man jumps and tips the ball over him. The announcer then usually falsely makes a comment about him not blocking out.

Anyway, people have different rebounding skills. And there are different rebounding positions. Sometimes you should do nothing but block out. Sometimes you should forget blocking out altogether. But rebounding is far less about blocking out than we make it out to be.

Good point.

Since Haas was a freshman I noticed that he was very fundamentally sound when it came to finding his man and blocking him out. Sometimes he gets the board, other times he clears out so a teammate gets it. I didn't watch the game, but I have to believe he hasn't lost that skill.

 

[buffboiler]

As was mentioned on the other post, I was listening to the game.
On description given one occasion where Haarms was not blocking while just standing there. And heard that a few more times when SIUE got the offensive boards.

I am not worried too much at this time. Rebounding can get better with time.

Boiler Up!!

 

[dumpsterFyre]

Purdue had only 1 fewer total rebound despite SIUE throwing up 21 bricks from beyond the arc.

 

[klmLB]

In general, I agree. In the case of Biggie, he had a exceptional knack and awareness for anticipating where a rebound may go and he also had a great talent for getting rebounds that were out of his 'zone'. He also had a bulldog mentality and self-accountability that every rebound was his to get - often 'taking' rebounds away from teammates. Nothing was getting in his way and that was good for Purdue!

That being said, boxing out is tremendously important - especially if you are not exceptional in these other areas of rebounding. Furthermore, if all 5 guys are fundamentally boxing out there man, your team has a much greater chance of getting the rebound. In that sense, collective boxing out can be more important than pure athleticism and jumping ability for a rebound. (of course, better to be athletic with solid rebounding fundamentals!). However, this can break down quickly if even just 1 of your 5 aren't able to successfully box out their man.

Longer shots, like 3 pointers, with long rebounds can be tough to rebound because even if you successfully box out, the ball can careen over your head to the offensive player.

 

[Chuchumutha]

Purdue had only 1 fewer total rebound despite SIUE throwing up 21 bricks from beyond the arc.

And every one of those misses was an opportunity for Purdue to grab the rebound. 24 times, on that side of the court, they failed. They gave up the second most offensive rebounds to an opponent in the 50 year history of Mackey Arena. It is impossible to explain or justify 24 offensive rebounds to SIUE.

 

[dumpsterFyre]

And every one of those misses was an opportunity for Purdue to grab the rebound. 24 times, on that side of the court, they failed. They gave up the second most offensive rebounds to an opponent in the 50 year history of Mackey Arena. It is impossible to explain or justify 24 offensive rebounds to SIUE.

Alright, let's talk about opportunity then. Check this out:

SIUE shot 38% from the floor, 21 of 50 misses were from three.

Purdue shot 60% from the floor, 10 of 25 misses were from three.

Who had more opportunity? Keep in mind, total rebounds were virtually even.

 

[delish1]

And every one of those misses was an opportunity for Purdue to grab the rebound. 24 times, on that side of the court, they failed. They gave up the second most offensive rebounds to an opponent in the 50 year history of Mackey Arena. It is impossible to explain or justify 24 offensive rebounds to SIUE.

It seemed to me like a lot of those offensive boards were bad bounces or luck. Sometimes those things happen and Purdue still won in a complete walkover.

I'm not saying rebounding won't be an issue but let's wait a couple games before saying this team can't accomplish its goals because of it.

 

[guppy likes purdue]

Alright, let's talk about opportunity then. Check this out:

SIUE shot 38% from the floor, 31 of 50 misses were from three.

Purdue shot 60% from the floor, 10 of 25 misses were from three.

Who had more opportunity? Keep in mind, total rebounds were virtually even.[/QUOTE

They had 24 offensive rebounds, that was 2nd most out of the 200+ teams that played on Friday. Purdue wasn't the only team to blow out a trash team. grabing under 60% of your defensive rebounds is bad, its horrid when its verse a tiny Low major school