Biggie's stock may soar in the next few weeks

[Summy1]

This is the time of the year when NBA draft prospects separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Purdue will be on national tv in the Big Ten tournament and NCAA tournament. If Biggie plays really well he will continue to get the attention of the national media. The tv commentators already love him which was obvious with yesterdays game on CBS.

Let's hope for big things from Biggie and Purdue in the next few weeks. Boiler up

 

[Erock_94]

He better shoot better inside and play good defense and not turn the ball over. I still don't think he is near being ready but whatever.

 

[Boiler Buck]

This is the time of the year when NBA draft prospects separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Purdue will be on national tv in the Big Ten tournament and NCAA tournament. If Biggie plays really well he will continue to get the attention of the national media. The tv commentators already love him which was obvious with yesterdays game on CBS.

Let's hope for big things from Biggie and Purdue in the next few weeks. Boiler up

I think Biggie always plays well. Sometimes he just plays great. The difference is his scoring and turnovers. When he gets 20+ by shooting well and when he takes care of the ball we are so much better.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

This is the time of the year when NBA draft prospects separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Purdue will be on national tv in the Big Ten tournament and NCAA tournament. If Biggie plays really well he will continue to get the attention of the national media. The tv commentators already love him which was obvious with yesterdays game on CBS.

Let's hope for big things from Biggie and Purdue in the next few weeks. Boiler up

I'd rather see consistency for Swanigan than anything else. Keep getting the double's, help the team, play for the team wins, and the rest will fall in place.

Personally, I want to see Haas get back on track.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I'd rather see consistency for Swanigan than anything else. Keep getting the double's, help the team, play for the team wins, and the rest will fall in place.

Personally, I want to see Haas get back on track.

Yes, The supporting cast of for sure Haas, CE and even Cline all need to continue to improve and show up. But to Haas....I just enjoy watching the Boilers play when the interior guys are clicking & have great games....limit TOs and are scoring as it usually amounts to a Boiler win. Haas hands on the catch and rebounding seem to be unsure and weak these last few games.

 

[rgarlitz]

He better shoot better inside and play good defense and not turn the ball over. I still don't think he is near being ready but whatever.

We'll probably hash this argument out multiple times in the coming weeks and months. It all comes down to how much he could improve his stock next year vs the risk of injury or having a year that isn't as good.

I don't think his numbers would take a huge leap if he comes back to Purdue next year. Plus, B1G teams have had two years to figure out how to contain him. So, maybe it's time for him to make the jump. That said, there are things he could still improve. Ball handling inside and perimeter defense are two that come to mind.

 

[BoilerStation]

Those who think Biggie should stay to develop more have no idea how the NBA or NBA draft work. He has zero to gain from coming back an additional year and it makes no sense from a financial standpoint to delay his rookie contract another season. Everything he can improve can be improved with a NBA team without the pressures of school involved. It's selfish to think a player should return for the sole fact of just wanting another good team.

 

[threeeputtt]

While his defense looks suspect, I believe he has been told NOT to challenge as much as he'd like to prevent fouling out.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Those who think Biggie should stay to develop more have no idea how the NBA or NBA draft work. He has zero to gain from coming back an additional year and it makes no sense from a financial standpoint to delay his rookie contract another season. Everything he can improve can be improved with a NBA team without the pressures of school involved. It's selfish to think a player should return for the sole fact of just wanting another good team.

Agree - once you are projected as first round guaranteed money...take it. To many risks not to....unless for injury you get one of those insurance policies. But that does not insure against falling draft stock. Financially, with opportunity costs....take the money and help yourself and your family.

As too the weak D comment.....his D looks about like the rest of the NBA's D....so he should mesh up well there.

 

[lbodel]

Those who think Biggie should stay to develop more have no idea how the NBA or NBA draft work. He has zero to gain from coming back an additional year and it makes no sense from a financial standpoint to delay his rookie contract another season. Everything he can improve can be improved with a NBA team without the pressures of school involved. It's selfish to think a player should return for the sole fact of just wanting another good team.

I don't get why people get so defensive over this subject. If he leaves, great. If he stays, great. Why does it matter now? It doesn't. It has literally 0 bearing on this season and is not going to change how anything is handled.

 

[*4purdue*]

I think Biggie always plays well. Sometimes he just plays great. The difference is his scoring and turnovers. When he gets 20+ by shooting well and when he takes care of the ball we are so much better.

I agree with this, and I think his stock will depend on how far Purdue goes. If we tank early in the tournament, I think he can kiss NPOY goodbye along with his draft stock.

 

[Dryfly88]

I agree with this, and I think his stock will depend on how far Purdue goes. If we tank early in the tournament, I think he can kiss NPOY goodbye along with his draft stock.[/QUOTE]
NBA teams don't care how we do. They only care about his ability to help their team at that level.

 

[Summy1]

I agree with this, and I think his stock will depend on how far Purdue goes. If we tank early in the tournament, I think he can kiss NPOY goodbye along with his draft stock.

The bigger his stock gets that means the better Purdue is doing which is a great thing. I for one am looking forward to hearing a lot about Biggie and Purdue in the next few weeks. It will be lots of fun.

 

[*4purdue*]

While his defense looks suspect, I believe he has been told NOT to challenge as much as he'd like to prevent fouling out.

Where did you hear that?

 

[*4purdue*]

Those who think Biggie should stay to develop more have no idea how the NBA or NBA draft work. He has zero to gain from coming back an additional year and it makes no sense from a financial standpoint to delay his rookie contract another season. Everything he can improve can be improved with a NBA team without the pressures of school involved. It's selfish to think a player should return for the sole fact of just wanting another good team.

I don't think it's selfish. He's getting a degree and education. As fans, yes we want him to stay, that's what being a fan is. Unless you work for an NBA team, I'm not sure you should telling people how the NBA works.

 

[nat100]

I don't think it's selfish. He's getting a degree and education. As fans, yes we want him to stay, that's what being a fan is. Unless you work for an NBA team, I'm not sure you should telling people how the NBA works.

In a thread discussing his draft prospects you dont want an opinion?

He is correct, the draft is about potential more than about current skill. Scouts know who and what he is. A run wont significantly improve his stock.

 

[*4purdue*]

In a thread discussing his draft prospects you dont want an opinion?

He is correct, the draft is about potential more than about current skill. Scouts know who and what he is. A run wont significantly improve his stock.

The D League is full of kids that were given bad info. I'm saying completing your education is not a bad thing, especially for a player that may not last in the NBA. It also was not stated as an opinion, it was stated that. "You don't know how the NBA works", when in reality, none of us do. He will get feedback after the season. I do think he will leave, but people need to stop acting like Biggie is still homeless. I'm sure his family needs the help, but HIS future is what he needs to look out for.

 

[BoilerStation]

The D League is full of kids that were given bad info. I'm saying completing your education is not a bad thing, especially for a player that may not last in the NBA. It also was not stated as an opinion, it was stated that. "You don't know how the NBA works", when in reality, none of us do. He will get feedback after the season. I do think he will leave, but people need to stop acting like Biggie is still homeless. I'm sure his family needs the help, but HIS future is what he needs to look out for.

Being in the D league doesn't mean you were given bad info. Plenty of those players would not have improved their draft stock had they stayed more years in college. I'd say a good majority had a dream to play professional basketball. As far as saying you don't know how the NBA works it's been fairly obvious the way the NBA drafts on potential and very few players significantly improve their stock by a large amount after coming back additional years when it's become obvious what they can do on the court.

 

[BoilerStation]

Far too many people want to talk about whether a player should come back or not but don't watch a single second of NBA basketball. I don't know how you can make an educated guess or statement if you are unfamiliar with the NBA and how drafting is done by teams.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Being in the D league doesn't mean you were given bad info. Plenty of those players would not have improved their draft stock had they stayed more years in college. I'd say a good majority had a dream to play professional basketball. As far as saying you don't know how the NBA works it's been fairly obvious the way the NBA drafts on potential and very few players significantly improve their stock by a large amount after coming back additional years when it's become obvious what they can do on the court.

And whether we like it or not, playing in the D league with solid coaching is closer to the NBA than D1 basketball. I'm not much of an NBA fan but for many kids the D league is a better path.

That being said, I would be shocked for Biggie to be in the D league a year from now.

 

[SunnyFL24]

He better shoot better inside and play good defense and not turn the ball over. I still don't think he is near being ready but whatever.

I second that...very good player.........but no Big Dog!

 

[BoilerStation]

I second that...very good player.........but no Big Dog!

So you can only leave early if you are expected to be the #1 overall pick in the draft? Got it. Thanks

 

[SunnyFL24]

Those who think Biggie should stay to develop more have no idea how the NBA or NBA draft work. He has zero to gain from coming back an additional year and it makes no sense from a financial standpoint to delay his rookie contract another season. Everything he can improve can be improved with a NBA team without the pressures of school involved. It's selfish to think a player should return for the sole fact of just wanting another good team.

He will end up like Hammons playing in the developmental league his first year.. But he will surely go...

 

[SunnyFL24]

So you can only leave early if you are expected to be the #1 overall pick in the draft? Got it. Thanks

Never said that....you must work for the main stream media...........

 

[Summy1]

In my opinion, Biggie has shown some of his potential in only one year. He made major improvements from his freshman to sophomore year. NBA scouts should love that and the potential he can improve even more. As mentioned most scouts already know this but a deep run in the tournament will help to introduce Biggie to the rest of the country.

 

[BoilerStation]

He will end up like Hammons playing in the developmental league his first year.. But he will surely go...

Hammons didn't leave early and yes has spent most of the time in the D league. Hammons is in the D league because of the team he is on, not because he isn't good enough to play. You could throw him on a dozen other teams and he would see plenty of playing time. Even if Biggie does spend most of his time in the D league to get reps it still benefits him playing and working at basketball 24 hours a day vs spending an additional year here. Especially when you consider how much work he is willing to put into his game. There will be quite a few GM's who would be thrilled to get him. Add to it he is getting paid and is one year closer to his 2nd contract which is the most important thing about getting into the league as fast as possible.

 

[BoilerStation]

Never said that....you must work for the main stream media...........

Sorry I guess I should use more alternative facts for ya

 

[Dakota Girl]

I think Biggie always plays well. Sometimes he just plays great. The difference is his scoring and turnovers. When he gets 20+ by shooting well and when he takes care of the ball we are so much better.

I think you nailed it. He has been so consistently good that we fail to see how good his "bad" games are.

 

[nat100]

The D League is full of kids that were given bad info. I'm saying completing your education is not a bad thing, especially for a player that may not last in the NBA. It also was not stated as an opinion, it was stated that. "You don't know how the NBA works", when in reality, none of us do. He will get feedback after the season. I do think he will leave, but people need to stop acting like Biggie is still homeless. I'm sure his family needs the help, but HIS future is what he needs to look out for.

He will end up like Hammons playing in the developmental league his first year.. But he will surely go...

Hammons is in the D league with an NBA contract number. I dont see the downside if he is actually learning to be an NBA player.

 

[Summy1]

Biggie is the first one in the gym and the last one to leave. NBA scouts love that. Just having him around other players would be a big thing so they can see his work ethic.

 

[BoilerStation]

Biggie is the first one in the gym and the last one to leave. NBA scouts love that. Just having him around other players would be a big thing so they can see his work ethic.

It's one thing to work hard and see very little progress on the court but you don't have to look far to see the transformation he has made with his body going back to his jr and sr years to his frosh year at Purdue and then to this season. He has had drastic improvements in productivity showing just how much his hard work pays off and if anything it doesn't appear to be tapering off. I don't think their games are entirely similar but selling him as the next Draymond Green per say is what could really benefit him. NBA teams love potential and if they can draw a line between the two that bumps his stock even higher.

 

[SunnyFL24]

Hammons is in the D league with an NBA contract number. I dont see the downside if he is actually learning to be an NBA player.

Once again.....you lack comprehension........ Never said it was a downside! Just saying he will be in the "D"league his first year! Which is where he needs to be. Don't blame him for going and taking the money! There is a lot of work ahead of him to be a big time NBA player! You have a bad habbit of trying to interpret posts on this board..........

 

[delish1]

Where did you hear that?

I don't have a quote but I fully believe it too. Purdue has no front court depth and haas can't play xtended minutes. Look at how biggie stands with his arms up early in games but will then go for blocks late.

I think he has been told not to reach, play smart and allow points even to stay out of foul trouble. This isn't something the team could say publicly though for a couple reasons.

Now I'm not saying his perimeter defense is good (michigan does scare me as a matchup) but I think he is a better defender than we are seeing

 

[lbodel]

Hammons is in the D league with an NBA contract number. I dont see the downside if he is actually learning to be an NBA player.

I always get dragged into this rabbit hole - I think the difference is Hammons maxed out his time and reached his highest potential - and this is where he is. I think the argument is if Swanigan is not guaranteed a contract (i.e. for sure 1st round), then if he came back, he has a pretty good shot at a lottery pick. That's a big difference in $. I think the other "reasoning" for coming back is that his entire team is coming back around him (minus Spike). So it's not like he'd be staying and he'd be on a crappy team where it could hurt him. He can also get an insurance policy that would pay him out if he were to get injured. That being said, if he's dead set on going to the NBA, doesn't want to stay any longer, etc. - then absolutely, go. He has a smart man as his guardian who knows this stuff. People point to what he's said before - but also, he's a smooth talker - look at the CBS piece when he was telling him he was the best PF out there (when asked if he lied, it was very nice spin...). I think the combine will play a major role in this - it'll be interesting if he signs immediately or not (not sure why he'd need to given his situation). But last year, the combine is what really changed things in his head because he really struggled. If there hasn't been a decision made ahead of the combine this year, you never know. But it's his decision and he has very supportive people around him to help.

 

[nat100]

I think the argument is if Swanigan is not guaranteed a contract (i.e. for sure 1st round), then if he came back, he has a pretty good shot at a lottery pick. .

I dont think there is much more he can do to prove himself to the next level. He isnt going to get more athletic and his skill set is already pretty refined.

Cutting down turnovers is about the only item i can think of, but fixing that wont vault him into the lotto (top 15) in my opinion.

 

[lbodel]

I dont think there is much more he can do to prove himself to the next level. He isnt going to get more athletic and his skill set is already pretty refined.

Cutting down turnovers is about the only item i can think of, but fixing that wont vault him into the lotto (top 15) in my opinion.

I mean, he significantly improved last year over this year. Not sure why we assume he's "peaked".

 

[Summy1]

Not sure why people think he is coming back? Sounds like he was set on leaving last year but his stock wasn't high enough. This year he will be drafted for sure. I don't see him coming back.

 

[nat100]

I mean, he significantly improved last year over this year. Not sure why we assume he's "peaked".

He sure did. Also didnt say he has peaked, but he isnt going to become an athlete like Hammons was. 20ish pick is about right for him



.

 

[lbodel]

Not sure why people think he is coming back? Sounds like he was set on leaving last year but his stock wasn't high enough. This year he will be drafted for sure. I don't see him coming back.

Don't think anyone said that. And kids talking about the NBA are often not that reliable - especially when their guardian is a sports agent. Yes, he'd be drafted - but don't think he's a sure 1st rounder quite yet. Very well could end up that way after all the combine and such (which is where he ran into problems last year). This is a pretty stocked draft. But he may not even care if he's a first rounder or not, I have no idea.