Baseball post because I actually want to see some responses...

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Purdue has seen an incredible drop off the past two seasons after their B1G Championship run and have slipped even lower this year (13-31 overall and 1-13 in conference). With the new stadium and great facilities, does Schreiber need to be let go after really underwhelming his entire career at Purdue? He currently stands at 468-464 overall and 220-234 in conference. He has been the head coach since 1999 and his finishes outside of the conference championship are 2nd (3x) and 3 (2x). Obviously not bad for a school that doesn't have a whole lot of baseball tradition, but with the amazing facilities would you be happier with another coach coming in and the AD spending some good money to get a top flight baseball coach? Or do you think the contracts of Versyp (WBB trending down and possibly needing a coach with another poor season) and Hazel (what happens if the program doesn't get to a bowl in the next 2-3 years?) prevent from making a change in baseball?

 

[pboiler18]

I don't think a good baseball coach is going to A. run you more than 500k and B. going to come to Purdue. Look at the talent on that 2012 team. Plawecki, Perkins, Wittgren and Mascarello were all legitimate MLB draft picks and prospects. When was the last time that Purdue had anything similar than that? When is the next time they will? That was a once every 20 years type team for Purdue.

Purdue is a cold weather team and is always going to struggle to recruit. We should definitely be better in conference and not go 13-31....but at the same time baseball success is not important to the alumni base as a whole. I'd like to see upgrades to the football staff (new OC) and basketball staff (new recruiters) than the baseball staff. That said, after 2012, Purdue baseball has been on a precipitous decline and its probably time for some new blood!

 

[asby]

Purdue does have a history of not getting rid of head coaches when it seems their time is up....

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Purdue has seen an incredible drop off the past two seasons after their B1G Championship run and have slipped even lower this year (13-31 overall and 1-13 in conference). With the new stadium and great facilities, does Schreiber need to be let go after really underwhelming his entire career at Purdue? He currently stands at 468-464 overall and 220-234 in conference. He has been the head coach since 1999 and his finishes outside of the conference championship are 2nd (3x) and 3 (2x). Obviously not bad for a school that doesn't have a whole lot of baseball tradition, but with the amazing facilities would you be happier with another coach coming in and the AD spending some good money to get a top flight baseball coach? Or do you think the contracts of Versyp (WBB trending down and possibly needing a coach with another poor season) and Hazel (what happens if the program doesn't get to a bowl in the next 2-3 years?) prevent from making a change in baseball?

He does have the most wins in school history. As a guy who has dealt with him regarding prospects, I've found him at times to be cordial, and other times to be somewhat stand-offish. He did offer one of my pitchers to walk on. Personally, with the new facilities, it might be time to look for a replacement. I don't agree that PU can't be a baseball school....that's allowing for reduced expectations. Michigan and ND have done well and their further north.

 

[BoilerDeac]

Honestly, and I know this isn't a realistic perspective (or, maybe it is), I really only care about bball and football. Yes, it was nice to follow the baseball team back in 2012, but I would rather see bball and football success, even those were the only two sports that Purdue was successful in. Also, I think there can be a sort of 'trickle down' effect. If football and bball do well, it might rub off on the other sports, in terms of recruiting/overall athletics pitch.

 

[rgarlitz]

That appears to have been MSU's strategy over the past decade or so - invest heavily in football and men's basketball, give the women's bball program enough to be competitive, and be content with also-ran status in everything else.

It's hard to argue with their success if you like that approach. MSU has great football and basketball programs right now. The rest of their sports aren't much to talk about, but it seems to be working for them.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Baseball north of Nashville is by definition going to be a tough go. Teams can be good but it is cyclical. Purdue had a tough break when the stadium was not ready and they had to host the regional in Gary. They got little exposure or lift from the experience.

Most Big Ten coaches that are good are going to jump at opportunities where shoveling the field is not a concern. Indiana got a good group of kids with the timing of the new stadium and attendance went from three moms and two girlfriends to 2,000 avg with 8800 at the game last week in Indy.

Well, the coach goes to AZ, the three bombers graduate and bingo here we are a mediocre team that can't hit. Can Limones bring it back? Maybe, but they still have to fight the negatives. SEC is warmer with bigger crowds in most stadiums and the academics are not as stringent as the BIG. Tough sledding.

 

[jberry5]

It's hard to argue with their success if you like that approach. MSU has great football and basketball programs right now. The rest of their sports aren't much to talk about, but it seems to be working for them.

And who really knows that (the rest of their sports part)? I know I sure didn't, I see them as being very good overall athletically, when all that really means is they are good in the 2 highest profile sports.

It might upset those that are fans, participants or family members of the other sports, but football and men's basketball are the most viewed/followed of the sports. I say this as someone that played college golf. We only had an occasional parent following a group, heck even girlfriends never showed up for matches/tourneys and our course was right on campus, a good 3-wood from the main dorms.

 

[Heller]

Baseball north of Nashville is by definition going to be a tough go. Teams can be good but it is cyclical. Purdue had a tough break when the stadium was not ready and they had to host the regional in Gary. They got little exposure or lift from the experience.

Most Big Ten coaches that are good are going to jump at opportunities where shoveling the field is not a concern. Indiana got a good group of kids with the timing of the new stadium and attendance went from three moms and two girlfriends to 2,000 avg with 8800 at the game last week in Indy.

Well, the coach goes to AZ, the three bombers graduate and bingo here we are a mediocre team that can't hit. Can Limones bring it back? Maybe, but they still have to fight the negatives. SEC is warmer with bigger crowds in most stadiums and the academics are not as stringent as the BIG. Tough sledding.

It's also a smaller pool of players since the NCAA doesn't give schools full rides for all the players, a lot of kids go the minor league route out of HS.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Baseball north of Nashville is by definition going to be a tough go. Teams can be good but it is cyclical. Purdue had a tough break when the stadium was not ready and they had to host the regional in Gary. They got little exposure or lift from the experience.

Most Big Ten coaches that are good are going to jump at opportunities where shoveling the field is not a concern. Indiana got a good group of kids with the timing of the new stadium and attendance went from three moms and two girlfriends to 2,000 avg with 8800 at the game last week in Indy.

Well, the coach goes to AZ, the three bombers graduate and bingo here we are a mediocre team that can't hit. Can Limones bring it back? Maybe, but they still have to fight the negatives. SEC is warmer with bigger crowds in most stadiums and the academics are not as stringent as the BIG. Tough sledding.

I thought Glass spent the money on your new coach way too quickly, but hey give him another two years and see what he can do. After all, the Illini have won 17 in a row and 36 on the season. In a cold climate.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I thought Glass spent the money on your new coach way too quickly, but hey give him another two years and see what he can do. After all, the Illini have won 17 in a row and 36 on the season. In a cold climate.

Well he had an opening to fill, he had a hot program and wanted to keep it going. Smith would be in the same situation had he stayed.

Illinois is the class of the league this year, like IU sustaining it will be the challenge.

 

[IndySouthsider]

Seems like the kids here in Florida are playing year round.

 

[AZboiler]

I tried to send Purdue a Division 1( Big school) All Arizona, All State, American Family all Arizona Pitcher from Arizona - Chandler Hamilton. The Hamilton program has 4 state championships, 3 Draft picks the past 3 years and won the state title, Ranked #1 (computer) and #5 Nationally - sportswriter (2014). Hamilton is a serious National program. Hamilton had 2 kids of Purdue Alums as starters, both kids are now Engineering majors at other schools.
Purdue did not even give the kids a call, letter or even email despite multiple letters to Coach Schreiber......
Purdue baseball has its own agenda and it is not to compete at the highest level...
It appears that Purdue wanted the new facility - built a large Garage... fans wanted a Ferrari to put into that garage, but Purdue filled it with a Pinto.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

I tried to send Purdue a Division 1( Big school) All Arizona, All State, American Family all Arizona Pitcher from Arizona - Chandler Hamilton. The Hamilton program has 4 state championships, 3 Draft picks the past 3 years and won the state title, Ranked #1 (computer) and #5 Nationally - sportswriter (2014). Hamilton is a serious National program. Hamilton had 2 kids of Purdue Alums as starters, both kids are now Engineering majors at other schools.
Purdue did not even give the kids a call, letter or even email despite multiple letters to Coach Schreiber......
Purdue baseball has its own agenda and it is not to compete at the highest level...
It appears that Purdue wanted the new facility - built a large Garage... fans wanted a Ferrari to put into that garage, but Purdue filled it with a Pinto.

Just curious AZ about this kid's stats and positions...lefty/righty/how fast/locator/off speed/different pitches thrown/etc, and including other positions played and batting average. Baseball's a bit different than FB or Basketball in that it's not as position oriented. Now, colleges are drafting middle infielders and converting them to the outfield and third, with the best going in the middle, including a lot of center fielders. It's about the speed to cover and recover. Where did the kid wind up?

 

[AZboiler]

Just curious AZ about this kid's stats and positions...lefty/righty/how fast/locator/off speed/different pitches thrown/etc, and including other positions played and batting average. Baseball's a bit different than FB or Basketball in that it's not as position oriented. Now, colleges are drafting middle infielders and converting them to the outfield and third, with the best going in the middle, including a lot of center fielders. It's about the speed to cover and recover. Where did the kid wind up?

Kid 1: Position: Pitcher - Senior record 8-1 ERA 1.59, BA .288, R/R - Top FB 91 MPH, Avg FB 88.
ended up at Mesa Community College. Looking to enhance Draft prospects. Mechanical Engineering.
Continues to Pitch for MCC as a starter. Currently tied for 2nd for strike outs. the knock on this kid is he is 5'11" - I know this kid well.
Kid 2: Position: Outfielder BA .382, R/R - named MVP for the State championship game. University of Arizona. Did NOT walk on to the Baseball program.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Kid 1: Position: Pitcher - Senior record 8-1 ERA 1.59, BA .288, R/R - Top FB 91 MPH, Avg FB 88.
ended up at Mesa Community College. Looking to enhance Draft prospects. Mechanical Engineering.
Continues to Pitch for MCC as a starter. Currently tied for 2nd for strike outs. the knock on this kid is he is 5'11" - I know this kid well.
Kid 2: Position: Outfielder BA .382, R/R - named MVP for the State championship game. University of Arizona. Did NOT walk on to the Baseball program.

From what you told me, his fastball isn't spectacular in today's game, (I watched a 15 year-old throwing 88 last summer against my grandson who was throwing 86) but it is good and certainly deserving of a position somewhere. A good coach can add at least three mph on his FB by working on muscle memory and small mechanical flaws. I'm guessing that with his ERA, he's got great location and movement on the FB, and he has to have a couple of very good "out" pitches such as a curve, slider, or change. His BA is pretty decent but was that HS or college? I certainly would have asked for video of him were I at the helm of the Boilers, and would have given his HS coach a call to discuss it. A lot of kids never get noticed that deserve to be, because of lazy coaches and lazy HS athletic directors who fail to promote their kids. Thanks for pulling for this kid...he's earned your support.

 

[BoilerFred42]

Must be a Purdue thing. My son is being recruited by ISU and IU for track. He wants to go to Purdue so his HS coach emailed every track coach about him walking in an attempt to get a response. He went to State the last two years in the 300 Hurdles. Fastest time is a 39.02 but still has a lot to learn in the hurdles. Runs the 400 in 49.2. A simple email says "not intersted" would have been appreciated by this John Purdue Club member. Instead Crickets! Purdue's coaches are their own worst enemies.

 

[AZboiler]

Complaining fixes nothing and the kids both are going to be fine. The Pitcher had 3 Div 1 offers for 1/2 scholarship each, so I would recommend that parents focus more on academics than athletics… The Title Nine kills the other mens sports. TD2 thank you for your kind analysis. 91 is not spectacular but spotting the ball is much more important. Having watched ASU and now MCC, there is less difference between JUCO and Div 1 than most think. BTW MCC was 2014 National Champion and is in the hunt again this year.

 

[jberry5]

Having watched ASU and now MCC, there is less difference between JUCO and Div 1 than most think. BTW MCC was 2014 National Champion and is in the hunt again this year.

Yes, baseball is a whole different animal than basketball and football for professional aspirations. There are so many Major Leaguers that attended JUCOs and CCs, where in the other big sports that's a lot more unusual.

 

[nagemj02]

Purdue does have a history of not getting rid of head coaches when it seems their time is up....

Morgan Burke

He needs to retire.

 

[mitter28]

I think Schriber gets a pass this year. His dad has been in critical care after surgery on his collarbone resulted with bad reaction to the anesthetics. Lots to deal with

 

[boiler1987]

I think Schriber gets a pass this year. His dad has been in critical care after surgery on his collarbone resulted with bad reaction to the anesthetics. Lots to deal with

This will be the 3rd terrible year in a row though.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

I think Schriber gets a pass this year. His dad has been in critical care after surgery on his collarbone resulted with bad reaction to the anesthetics. Lots to deal with

If that's the case, he should step down for a period of time. Family should come first, and the team should have the coach's undivided attention. Sounds to me like his roster isn't as deep as maybe it should be.

 

[AZboiler]

Baseball to most is a slow tedious sport, those who are involved know differently. So much of the record depends on the teams confidence in itself and coaches and continuous improvement is the indicator the team is moving in the right direction. The right decision made one or two pitches too late can lose a game or two. But the past 3 years, I see the end of year snowball rolling down hill. That is the direct result of bad team dynamics.

 

[HartPU]

Must be a Purdue thing. My son is being recruited by ISU and IU for track. He wants to go to Purdue so his HS coach emailed every track coach about him walking in an attempt to get a response. He went to State the last two years in the 300 Hurdles. Fastest time is a 39.02 but still has a lot to learn in the hurdles. Runs the 400 in 49.2. A simple email says "not intersted" would have been appreciated by this John Purdue Club member. Instead Crickets! Purdue's coaches are their own worst enemies.

I sent Schreiber an email about a two kids in my area that are freshmen playing varsity ball. Both will no doubt be D-I prospects. I didn't hear anything back either. I'm not overly offended, but a "thanks" might have been nice.

IMO, Schreiber needs to put a winner on the field next year. This is the third year in a row of not just being bad, but being atrocious. Qualifying for the Big Ten Tournament next year ought to be the minimum that is acceptable next season.