Barkley said it best

[*4purdue*]

"coaches need to make in game adjustments. You can't just play the same way all the time". Wow, I've thought that for years about CMP. That's the first time I've heard one of the analyst say it. CMP and GK are the same. They are/were hell bent to force their style of play every game, even if it doesn't work. You can't just say we're playing man to man and thats it. Press, zone and traps are all part of the game. If you don't know how to use them, you are putting your team at a huge disadvantage.

 

[purdue4sure]

"coaches need to make in game adjustments. You can't just play the same way all the time". Wow, I've thought that for years about CMP. That's the first time I've heard one of the analyst say it. CMP and GK are the same. They are/were hell bent to force their style of play every game, even if it doesn't work. You can't just say we're playing man to man and thats it. Press, zone and traps are all part of the game. If you don't know how to use them, you are putting your team at a huge disadvantage.

No question that in-game adjustments must be made. It's what separates good coaches from great coaches.

I recorded the game but have not watched it yet. Did Syracuse come back by switching to man defense? Or did they stick with their patented zone defense?

 

[BoilerDaddy]

No question that in-game adjustments must be made. It's what separates good coaches from great coaches.

I recorded the game but have not watched it yet. Did Syracuse come back by switching to man defense? Or did they stick with their patented zone defense?

They went to a press. Nothing unexpected when the game is slipping away. They sped UVa up and took them out of their game. I don't think that it would have worked without the pressure of it being an NCAA tournament game.

I don't blame Bennett at all, though. UVa is an overachieving team that got as far as it did by doing what it does very well.

 

[TC4THREE]

No question that in-game adjustments must be made. It's what separates good coaches from great coaches.

I recorded the game but have not watched it yet. Did Syracuse come back by switching to man defense? Or did they stick with their patented zone defense?

They pressed like every other team in the country does when they are down late in a game.

 

[*4purdue*]

No question that in-game adjustments must be made. It's what separates good coaches from great coaches.

I recorded the game but have not watched it yet. Did Syracuse come back by switching to man defense? Or did they stick with their patented zone defense?

They switched to a press for about 2 min. Made a comeback, changed the momentum and went back to zone. It energized their whole team.

 

[purdue4sure]

They went to a press. Nothing unexpected when the game is slipping away. They sped UVa up and took them out of their game. I don't think that it would have worked without the pressure of it being an NCAA tournament game.

I don't blame Bennett at all, though. UVa is an overachieving team that got as far as it did by doing what it does very well.

Thanks.

 

[*4purdue*]

They went to a press. Nothing unexpected when the game is slipping away. They sped UVa up and took them out of their game. I don't think that it would have worked without the pressure of it being an NCAA tournament game.

I don't blame Bennett at all, though. UVa is an overachieving team that got as far as it did by doing what it does very well.

That's what I'm talking about. I do blame Bennet because the didn't or couldn't adjust because that's all they do. You have to be able to adjust or make adjustments, especially in this setting.

 

[TC4THREE]

That's what I'm talking about. I do blame Bennet because the didn't or couldn't adjust because that's all they do. You have to be able to adjust or make adjustments, especially in this setting.

So in this magic world you live in where there is a coaching adjustment that can be made in every situation, does a game between two good coaches just never end?

Eventually, the game comes down to players.

 

[bonefish1]

UVA played right into Cuses hands. Case sped them up and UVA sped up their offense which isn't their comfort zone. They let the game turn into a track meet. Great coaching by Boeheim.

 

[*4purdue*]

So in this magic world you live in where there is a coaching adjustment that can be made in every situation, does a game between two good coaches just never end?

Eventually, the game comes down to players.

When one coach doesn't know how to make adjustments this is what happens. I would have loved to seen CMP make some changes in all the games with huge leads we gave away this year. He didn't and UVA didn't either, same result.

 

[PU pit bull]

Barkley is an analyst?

 

[TC4THREE]

When one coach doesn't know how to make adjustments this is what happens. I would have loved to seen CMP make some changes in all the games with huge leads we gave away this year. He didn't and UVA didn't either, same result.

Even if both coaches make every correct adjustment, one team is still going to lose the game.

 

[*4purdue*]

Even if both coaches make every correct adjustment, one team is still going to lose the game.

Yes and I can live with that. So your saying why even try?

 

[BoilerDaddy]

When one coach doesn't know how to make adjustments this is what happens. I would have loved to seen CMP make some changes in all the games with huge leads we gave away this year. He didn't and UVA didn't either, same result.

Not sure what kind of adjustments you are thinking about, but Bennett took a very different approach against the press than Painter. He also did slow his team down some when the aggressive attack mode wasn't working, but his players were tight and that's tough to overcome.

Bennett is one of the best coaches in all of college basketball. Like Bo Ryan, he'll eventually break through and make the Findl Four by doing what he does best.

 

[TC4THREE]

Yes and I can live with that. So your saying why even try?

I'm saying that there isn't always an adjustment to be made when you are at a disadvantage in certain games. You can try some things and hope for the best but at the end of the day it was Virginia's inability to finish in transition tonight that made Syracuse's press work and Boeheim could only hope that Virginia would react that poorly tonight.

 

[*4purdue*]

Not sure what kind of adjustments you are thinking about, but Bennett took a very different approach against the press than Painter. He also did slow his team down some when the aggressive attack mode wasn't working, but his players were tight and that's tough to overcome.

Bennett is one of the best coaches in all of college basketball. Like Bo Ryan, he'll eventually break through and make the Findl Four by doing what he does best.

Never been impressed with Bennet. I've said that before on this board. I know Twin Degrees has said on here before that he liked Bennet and thought he was good. I disputed him then and stand by it. He seams to get his kids to overachieve, but plays a very similar style to what Purdue does. Tough man to man and not much offense, though I did think they made improvements on offense this year.

 

[*4purdue*]

I'm saying that there isn't always an adjustment to be made when you are at a disadvantage in certain games. You can try some things and hope for the best but at the end of the day it was Virginia's inability to finish in transition tonight that made Syracuse's press work and Boeheim could only hope that Virginia would react that poorly tonight.

He didn't really make any adjustments, which is part of the reason they lost. Don't you think he's thinking I should have done this or that. Coaching is difficult and the losses stay with you much more than the wins.... at any level. I can't imagine what it must be like with a FF on the line.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

Even if both coaches make every correct adjustment, one team is still going to lose the game.

If adjustments were properly made on Virginia's side there would of never been a chance for them to lose the game. Painter just doesn't know how to adjust. He doesn't even know how to calm his team down. It seems like runs against Purdue never end...

 

[TC4THREE]

When you lose yea I'm sure Bennett will spend months replaying it all in his head wondering what would have happened if he had tried this or done that differently. Hindsight is 20/20 once you know the outcome. Whatever adjustments you think Bennett should have tried, always consider that they could have had negative repercussions as well.

 

[purdue4sure]

He didn't really make any adjustments, which is part of the reason they lost. Don't you think he's thinking I should have done this or that.

After next week, every coach but one will do that.

 

[TC4THREE]

If adjustments were properly made on Virginia's side there would of never been a chance for them to lose the game. Painter just doesn't know how to adjust. He doesn't even know how to calm his team down. It seems like runs against Purdue never end...

I seriously think you should be a coach. You have it all figured out!

 

[*4purdue*]

When you lose yea I'm sure Bennett will spend months replaying it all in his head wondering what would have happened if he had tried this or done that differently. Hindsight is 20/20 once you know the outcome. Whatever adjustments you think Bennett should have tried, always consider that they could have had negative repercussions as well.

If it's a close game all the way and your playing well, I agree, do what you do best, but when double digit leads start going away and it becomes a pattern, you better start doing something. Me hen the FF is on the line and a double digit lead goes away, you better be able to adjust, that's why your makin millions of dollars.

 

[*4purdue*]

After next week, every coach but one will do that.

Yes, but I could live with being one of the last 3.

 

[TJBoiler]

"coaches need to make in game adjustments. You can't just play the same way all the time". Wow, I've thought that for years about CMP. That's the first time I've heard one of the analyst say it. CMP and GK are the same. They are/were hell bent to force their style of play every game, even if it doesn't work. You can't just say we're playing man to man and thats it. Press, zone and traps are all part of the game. If you don't know how to use them, you are putting your team at a huge disadvantage.

Bobby Knight played man to man ALL the time.

 

[*4purdue*]

Bobby Knight played man to man ALL the time.

He also worked the refs better than any coach I've ever seen. His man to man was a staple, but he also ran a very good offense.

 

[purdue4sure]

Yes, but I could live with being one of the last 3.

Everyone has their sliding scale. Some are saying they would have settled for an Elite 8. Some say they won't settle for anything less than a FF. Others say they only want an NC.

 

[TC4THREE]

Everyone has their sliding scale. Some are saying they would have settled for an Elite 8. Some say they won't settle for anything less than a FF. Others say they only want an NC.

At some level, we are all like The Settlers. You know, like in the DirecTV commercial.

 

[*4purdue*]

Everyone has their sliding scale. Some are saying they would have settled for an Elite 8. Some say they won't settle for anything less than a FF. Others say they only want an NC.

True diehard Purdue fans... Or fans of any team won't settle for any less than a FF. yes, everyone wants to win it, but nobody complains about going to a FF.

 

[purdue4sure]

True diehard Purdue fans... Or fans of any team won't settle for any less than a FF. yes, everyone wants to win it, but nobody complains about going to a FF.

Sure everyone wants to win it or at least go to the FF. But not all of us make it an obsession to the point where they can't "settle" for anything else.

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I seriously think you should be a coach. You have it all figured out!

Didn't say anything like that. Its just easy to watch Purdue basketball and see Painter can't adjust. You look at our team compared to Boehiem's and he would just drool. This team was insanely talented just lacked great coaching which in the end is what cut the season short.

 

[*4purdue*]

Sure everyone wants to win it or at least go to the FF. But not all of us make it an obsession to the point where they can't "settle" for anything else.

Your probably right.... Today's society gives participation trophies to everyone. Kind of sad that people are satisfied with that.

 

[boilersallthewaynow]

Everyone has their sliding scale. Some are saying they would have settled for an Elite 8. Some say they won't settle for anything less than a FF. Others say they only want an NC.

CMP just compromises and doesn't get his teams to any of those levels.

Purdue athletics, where winning is for losers.

There , now we can put this matter to rest until next season's predictable conclusion.

Let's all enjoy the current Boiler baseball season then its on to the mighty Boilers and their football season.

We need a new AD who knows how to win and will get the job done.

Peace out.

Oh yeah, we've been through this before- I am a Boilermaker so deal with it.

 

[TC4THREE]

Didn't say anything like that. Its just easy to watch Purdue basketball and see Painter can't adjust. You look at our team compared to Boehiem's and he would just drool. This team was insanely talented just lacked great coaching which in the end is what cut the season short.

Lol at the "insanely talented" comment. We have fans that think our starting point guard shouldn't be in a major conference and you say we are insanely talented. I guess we will see how many of our "insanely talented" roster get drafted in the first round.

 

[TC4THREE]

Your probably right.... Today's society gives participation trophies to everyone. Kind of sad that people are satisfied with that.

Yes. Today everyone is like The Settlers. You know...from the DirecTV commercial.

 

[*4purdue*]

Lol at the "insanely talented" comment. We have fans that think our starting point guard shouldn't be in a major conference and you say we are insanely talented. I guess we will see how many of our "insanely talented" roster get drafted in the first round.

I'm guessing at least 3. A good friend of mine who is not a Purdue fan ask me the next day if I was p&$$@/. He said you guys have 3 front court NBA players and can't win 1 game. Most teams don't have 1 and you have 3.

 

[BuilderBob6]

He didn't really make any adjustments, which is part of the reason they lost. Don't you think he's thinking I should have done this or that. Coaching is difficult and the losses stay with you much more than the wins.... at any level. I can't imagine what it must be like with a FF on the line.

This or That? Really? What adjustment would you suggest he should have done against the press? He was ahead. A team like Virginia, or Purdue, needs to get across halfcourt and set the offense. if you take quick, bad shots you're just playing into what the pressing team wants you to do.

Playing against the press is about execution on the floor. Period. The pressing team is down on the scoreboard and has nothing to lose.

 

[purdue4sure]

Your probably right.... Today's society gives participation trophies to everyone. Kind of sad that people are satisfied with that.

I suppose you can look at it that way. But if someone won't settle for anything less than a National Championship every year for students on their college basketball team, then maybe some perspective is missing.

 

[TC4THREE]

I'm guessing at least 3. A good friend of mine who is not a Purdue fan ask me the next day if I was p&$$@/. He said you guys have 3 front court NBA players and can't win 1 game. Most teams don't have 1 and you have 3.

Hammons might. He is finally starting to appear there in some mock drafts. Personally, I think you vastly overrate the draft status of the others but Purdue fans tend to do that.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Didn't say anything like that. Its just easy to watch Purdue basketball and see Painter can't adjust. You look at our team compared to Boehiem's and he would just drool. This team was insanely talented just lacked great coaching which in the end is what cut the season short.

Insanely talented? You believe our team could hang with any of the teams you saw yesterday or today?

 

[Dryfly88]

I'm guessing at least 3. A good friend of mine who is not a Purdue fan ask me the next day if I was p&$$@/. He said you guys have 3 front court NBA players and can't win 1 game. Most teams don't have 1 and you have 3.

Time will tell, but as of right this moment we have 1 that is projected late 1st round maybe 2nd round (depending on which mock draft you look at). The other 2 (Haas, CS) are not listed on any mock drafts period. Our starting point guard might have started for Rutgers and Minnesota, besides those 2 he is a good sub for a few minutes to relieve a starter.

We had/have a good team not a great team. We finished about where we were predicted to both in conference and the country. Everyone was disappointed with the LR game and rightfully so, but the rest of the season played out about as predicted.