I've always thought of Izzo as a pretty good guy.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...me/ar-BBrvtnk?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=SL5JDHP#image=5
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...me/ar-BBrvtnk?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=SL5JDHP#image=5
As much as I don't like Sparty...
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interesting that "Suds" was good at reading and math, but yet repeated second grade. What other subjects would a student be retained in second grade?
It was a nice story showing a side some may not know...
Didn't bother reading it. I don't like MSU BECAUSE I think Izzo is a slimeball. Some people here are sore losers and dislike other coaches when/if they beat us. I can respect a good coach if they are a good person. I just can't respect Izzo because he fails in the latter category imo.
"He's also done it the right way, without a whiff of scandal, while graduating just about every player who hasn't jumped to the NBA."
Wait, what?!
Wait, what?!
That's a nice story, thank you for sharing. Personally, I'm a little on the fence about Izzo. I WANT to like him because I do like the way he coaches but probably wearing my Gold and Black colored glasses makes it a bit difficult with some of the fuzziness about the program make me dive in.
always has a well conditioned team like Nova which helps in the long run, also shares PT amongst his Bigs which helps later in the season, like that one guys they had from Wyoming vs us this year. Wish Taylor could have gotten in a little more time this past season.
I like this story about Izzo/MSU more:
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye...arrick-sherman-drunkenly-tweets-anger-at-ncaa
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye...arrick-sherman-drunkenly-tweets-anger-at-ncaa
Alot of people like to sweep it under the rug it seems. Hasn't been brought up since the guy went on the twitter rant. I bet there's alot of dirt at MSU that won't see the light of day.
he was crean's mentor...got to be "some" issues...
I'd like to know what this guys definition of a 'scandal' is? Apparently he didn't research his story very well.......
What's the latest on Mateen? Didn't he just get a domestic violence charge or DUI or something?
He's had some bad apples, which you are going to get with any winning program. Izzo has also done some very good things. If you've ever heard him speak, he has a lot of respect for Gene Keady. He's also had some players that have befriended some very sick kids. If you haven't seen Costello's story, you should look it up, I'm sure it's on u tube. Similar to the Lacy story from a few years ago.
Being nice to sick kids is great, but it doesn't absolve one of a crime, like say rape, for example.
Tc3 you're ignorant. There isn't a whiff of dishonesty in Izzos personally or his program. I suggest if you want to start throwing mud at somebody who is done so much for his school, his players and the community in general you might want to come up with one friggin example. Other than that, STFU.
OK TC3, I'll try to use small words so you can understand. I did not call out the thread, which overall is very accurate and favorable. I called out you for an ignorant statement with no foundation. Jud and Keady are very close friends, and in East Lansing we hear nothing but positives about the Purdue program. Try to find one thread on the MSU site that criticizes Painter for anything other than legitimate perceived underachievement.
I personally don't give a damn a how you, Jud, the entire Spartan fan base, or anyone feel about the Purdue program or anything else. It doesn't change anything about your program/coach and how I feel about it. So take your MSU fanboy self back to your board where you all can watch a Michael Moore film and celebrate the Dawson felony charge being dropped due to "insufficient evidence" just like it would have been in East Lansing.
Dawson could have very well ended up in WL. In fact most on this board were very disappointed that CMP didn't land him. So don't act like we are all high and mighty. Every program has their problems. Overall, MSU has been much cleaner than the UNC's, L'villes and Cuse of the world.
Of course we wanted him THEN. Knowing the thug he turned out to be, I am glad we didn't get him NOW.
The thread is about Izzo's character, not his players. My point is CMP went after the same kid. He was our top priority at the time. If you think Izzo is a bad person, your in the minority. He's going in the Hall of Fame. If you wouldn't want Izzo at Purdue, again, I think your in the minority. Don't make me embarrass you with a poll, because I'm guessing the same 78% that said we should let CMP go if he were to look elsewhere would gladly take Izzo with welcome arms. Don't make him out to be of the same character as Boeheim, Pitino and Williams, because he's not. A coworker of mine is very good friends with GK and if you ever meet Gene, ask him about Izzo's character.
Thank you for your comments 4Purdue. I appreciate you stating what the overwhelming majority of people feel about TI and the MSU program. It's much more enjoyable speaking with posters like you who demonstrate a mutual respect between our programs, versus some of the knuckle dragger's that like to criticize without foundation.
So, let me make sure I understand your statement. Your contention is that Izzo and the basketball program are squeaky clean, above reproach, and that Izzo has never violated or even bent recruiting regulations, correct? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, so if I'm misinterpreting your sentiment please correct me.
Yes I am saying that, and Painter is clean too. I truly believe the Big Ten may have its best representation of coaches who play by the rules. TI was suspended for a game a few years ago for letting the friend of a friend of a potential recruit work a summer camp. It was something he didn't even know about until after the fact. Believe me, if he were cheating we would've gotten far more of the five-star recruits who ended up playing at Kentucky or elsewhere. An earlier poster said it best. If you want to know about Izzo's character, ask Gene Keady.
All evidence to the contrary. Didn't I see you protesting at a Trump rally foaming at the mouth and holding a miss spelled sign?There's only one Mr Clean............and Izzo ain't him.
And Gene Keady once said that there is a difference between recruiting "characters" and recruiting for "character"..........
I suspect I am safe in saying that MSU's student athletes have done more for sick kids, charities, people with special needs, downtrodden individuals than any other school in the conference. All of our 4 year players graduate, and one is going to med school this fall. Many of our noted graduates like Magic Johnson, Steve Smith, Mateen Cleaves, and LeVeon Bell contribute millions to the university for athletic and academic improvements. Yet Painter couldn't attract the son of your university's best-known player the big dog to your school. Quite the close knit community you have there.
Well, if Izzo has been suspended for a recruiting violation, regardless of the level of significance you place upon it, that provides, to use your words, a whiff of dishonesty. You asserted 100% compliance, and then point out an example in which Izzo and the basketball program were found to be non-compliant.
That may be respectable, pretty good, or damn near perfect, but it's not perfect.
That may be respectable, pretty good, or damn near perfect, but it's not perfect.
Or they have just not been exposed at this point. Remember back when everyone thought Paterno and the Penn State program were a model for a program that did things the right way? Turned out they weren't and hadn't been for quite some time.
Of course Dawson could've come here but I'd have been disappointed if Painter enabled his behavior. There's a reason Kelsey Barlow didn't last. I don't try to pretend we don't have problems. I have been vocal over the years when I felt coaches didn't properly punish players. I think Hazell, aside from leading us to one of the worst stretches in program history, has been terrible in disciplining players for example. All programs are going to run into problems. Purdue has had their share. I wish all fans would hold coaches as accountable for that as they do for wins and losses.
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The charge against Izzo back then was the equivalent of a parking ticket. Let's cut to the chase on this conversation. Basically, Purdue fans have a major case of Izzo envy, because our program is a top 10 contender annually, while Purdue hasn't been relevant since Keady retired. Answer this question for me....would you trade Painter for Izzo right now? I think 100% of your respondents would say yes. I gotta run, thanks for playing along.
It's pretty hilarious that you made a spelling error here. Maybe it's that Spartan education.
if dawson had chosen purdue he would never have survived with the same behavior he displayed at msu. he may have made it at purdue but would never have gotten away with punching a guy with no penalty. painter would not have defended his behavior
i guarantee the response would not have been 100% i know one guy for sure who would rather have painter
Dawson and Payne were play fighting at the hotel before an away game, and things got a little carried away that's all. It was a family issue, and had nothing to do with attending class, being a good teammate, etc. Do you have an older or younger brother? Have you ever gotten into a scuffle with him? Everybody does, but again the MSU program is so close to perfect people like you need to find any minor Internal incident to make you feel better about your program. Remember, Izzo booted both Allen and Lucious several years ago and Nix was close to being dismissed as well. You might want to know some facts before you offer an opinion on the internal workings of a program. We can always discuss Purdue football if you want to visit a train wreck.
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LOL God, I hope that your comment was an attempt at irony and sarcasm versus a legitimate come back. Let me guess, that one person is Painters wife.
