Alec Peters

[nagemj02]

They're still just rumors, but it seems like there's been enough of them over the last month or so to consider some substance actually being attached to them. With Bryce Drew leaving Valpo for Vanderbilt (Drew's staff recruited Peters), I've read that Peters is considering transferring (assuming that he drops out of the NBA Draft). He would still have to complete coursework in the first (or maybe both) Summer sessions to be able to graduate (just finished his third year, so he's ahead of schedule). However, if he does accomplish that and intends to transfer, he would officially become an immediately eligible grad transfer at that point (i.e. June or July). He would be a very good addition to Purdue's frontcourt.

Has anyone else heard more on this? I think he could announce his intent to transfer before taking the summer classes and officially becoming a grad transfer.

Here's a reminder of his career numbers: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66821/alec-peters

Correlate that with Valpo having postseason appearances in each of its last three seasons (CIT, NCAA First Round, and NIT Semifinals) and him basically being the best or second best player on all of those teams. I would be pretty excited to see him become a Boilermaker!

 

[TC4THREE]

I could see it if Swanigan doesn't return but I doubt he'd come here if he wouldn't be a starter which I doubt he would with Haas, Swanigan, and Edwards on our frontline.

 

[nagemj02]

If Swanigan returns and Peters ended up making decisions similar to my hypothetical and transferring to Purdue, CMP could use a 6 or 7 man revolving starting rotation (think Thompson, C.Edwards, Mathias, V. Edwards, Peters, Swanigan, Haas) and then whoever's playing well and out of foul trouble will get the most PT. It's great competition with each other vs. the opposition, within a team structure and "team is family" identity.

 

[nagemj02]

In this interview yesterday, the way that Peters answered all of the questions makes me think that he's leaning towards transferring: http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sport...cle_894e23b0-2376-11e6-b168-d39d0980ca9c.html

He would definitely add more skill and depth to the Boilers' frontline (can play the 3 or 4). I think by adding him the frontcourt would be complete for next season.

 

[DG10]

In this interview yesterday, the way that Peters answered all of the questions makes me think that he's leaning towards transferring: http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sport...cle_894e23b0-2376-11e6-b168-d39d0980ca9c.html

He would definitely add more skill and depth to the Boilers' frontline (can play the 3 or 4). I think by adding him the frontcourt would be complete for next season.

Peters can absolutely play, and he would be a tremendous get/addition for Purdue, particularly at this point.

That said, it would put a significant dent in the minutes that Smotherman and/or Taylor might see.

Swanigan is going to see minutes at the 5, which would allow Peters to see minutes at the 4 when that happens, and he can play the 3 as well as you had said. I do think that he is leaning towards leaving Valpo on the heels of the staff having moved on to Vanderbilt, and Purdue would be a consideration seemingly...but his addition could very well disrupt team chemistry.

 

[nagemj02]

Peters can absolutely play, and he would be a tremendous get/addition for Purdue, particularly at this point.

That said, it would put a significant dent in the minutes that Smotherman and/or Taylor might see.

Swanigan is going to see minutes at the 5, which would allow Peters to see minutes at the 4 when that happens, and he can play the 3 as well as you had said. I do think that he is leaning towards leaving Valpo on the heels of the staff having moved on to Vanderbilt, and Purdue would be a consideration seemingly...but his addition could very well disrupt team chemistry.

If some of the players don't play quite as much as they hope to play, they should try to put their being upset about that aside for the greater goal, the overall success of the team. Or, they can keep working on their games and outplay their teammates in practice to earn more PT. We want to see Purdue have the best possible teams they can have, and if a situation such as Peters wanting to be a Boilermaker would occur, they shouldn't turn that down. You take him and figure things out from there. As I mentioned in another thread, I could see the PT spread out in this range with Peters in the picture:

Scholarship Players:

1. V. Edwards: 25-30 MPG
2. Peters: 20-25 MPG
3. Swanigan: 20-25 MPG
4. Haas: 20-25 MPG
5. Mathias: 20-25 MPG
6. Thompson: 15-20 MPG
7. C. Edwards: 15-20 MPG
8. Smotherman: 10-15 MPG
9. Cline: 10-15 MPG
10. Taylor: 7-12 MPG
11. Albrecht?: (healthy enough to play?)

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[Cevol03]

Why would he come here when he likely wouldn't even start. Plenty of good programs where he could go and be a starter and play big minutes.

 

[DG10]

Why would he come here when he likely wouldn't even start. Plenty of good programs where he could go and be a starter and play big minutes.

A couple of things...

Interest would be due to the proximity to Valpo, not to mention the opportunity to play in a major conference and ultimately the NCAA tournament.

He certainly would have options that provided him the opportunity to start and play more minutes than what he might ultimately see at Purdue, but there likely are not a lot of programs as high-profile that would offer them any more so than at Purdue.

 

[TC4THREE]

Why would he come here when he likely wouldn't even start. Plenty of good programs where he could go and be a starter and play big minutes.

I'd love to have him but this is my view also. Maybe he wants to go somewhere that will almost guarantee him to play in NCAA tourney and we might fit that bill but it's tough to see him starting ahead of anyone on our front line. That said, if he is the rare player that doesn't care about that, there should be starters minutes available backing up all those positions. Tough to see Haas averaging more than 25 mpg. Swanigan and Edwards won't average much over 30 mpg and if we ever decide to play big with Edwards at more of a guard spot then that opens up more minutes.

As far as team chemistry, everyone needs to take a page from PJs playbook and welcome any such addition with open arms and then work their ass off to get better. Minutes aren't awarded by seniority. If they deserve to play, they will. Foul trouble, injuries, personal situations, etc often create unexpected minutes for people. Last year we had Hammons missing some games to start the year, Davis getting injured, and Stephens leaving the team. Nobody knows what situations will arise next year but you can almost be certain there will be some.

 

[DG10]

If some of the players don't play quite as much as they hope to play, they should try to put their being upset about that aside for the greater goal, the overall success of the team. Or, they can keep working on their games and outplay their teammates in practice to earn more PT. We want to see Purdue have the best possible teams they can have, and if a situation such as Peters wanting to be a Boilermaker would occur, they shouldn't turn that down. You take him and figure things out from there. As I mentioned in another thread, I could see the PT spread out in this range with Peters in the picture:

Scholarship Players:

1. V. Edwards: 25-30 MPG
2. Peters: 20-25 MPG
3. Swanigan: 20-25 MPG
4. Haas: 20-25 MPG
5. Mathias: 20-25 MPG
6. Thompson: 15-20 MPG
7. C. Edwards: 15-20 MPG
8. Smotherman: 10-15 MPG
9. Cline: 10-15 MPG
10. Taylor: 7-12 MPG
11. Albrecht?: (healthy enough to play?)

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Swanigan is going to see close to 30 mpg, I would all but guarantee it.

I think that he, Vince and Mathias will all be guys that play in that 30 mpg range.

Albrecht is going to see the majority of the minutes at the point if he is indeed healthy, which will cut into C. Edwards' minutes...or move some of them to the two (which I think may happen).

Personally, I know there was an article not long ago that touched on it, but I think Purdue will go small at times with Swanigan and the 5, Vince at the 4, Mathias at the 3, Cline at the 2 and then Spike (or potentially C. Edwards)...that line-up is tough to match up with and provides plenty of perimeter shooting that would in turn allow Caleb to have plenty of space in the paint in which to operate. If Peters were somehow part of the mix, you could put him at the 4, Vince at the 3, and then a combination of Mathias/Cline/Albrecht at the 1 and 2.

 

[jimmygoiu]

If Peters transfers, why wouldn't he transfer to Vanderbilt? PU has Swanigan and Haas that absolutely start at the 4 and 5. Why would Peters come to Purdue. Help me.

 

[nagemj02]

If Peters transfers, why wouldn't he transfer to Vanderbilt? PU has Swanigan and Haas that absolutely start at the 4 and 5. Why would Peters come to Purdue. Help me.

Re-read the article in my third post of the thread. The tone from Peters comes off as believing that Bryce Drew (and assistant Roger Powell) betrayed or (at the very least) abandoned the Valpo program and the returning players. Maybe he also thinks it's going to be tougher to showcase his team (i.e. make the NCAA's) and himself with the player losses from this past season.

He would come to Purdue because it's not incredibly far from his hometown (Washington, IL), it's not far from Valparaiso (where I'm sure he'll still have friends and such) and he'd play for a team and program that, on paper, looks to be a good bet to make the NCAA's this coming season and he would definitely play in a fair amount of nationally televised games (i.e. more exposure).

 

[nagemj02]

Why would he come here when he likely wouldn't even start. Plenty of good programs where he could go and be a starter and play big minutes.

Why do you think he wouldn't get starter's minutes? One of the three PG types (Thompson, CE, or Albrecht), VE, Peters, Swanigan, and Haas is a possible lineup. If Haas gets fatigued or into foul trouble, Peters could play the 4 in a lineup of (insert PG), Mathias, VE, himself, and Swanigan. There are a lot of different lineups that could work with him in them.

 

[nagemj02]

Swanigan is going to see close to 30 mpg, I would all but guarantee it.

I think that he, Vince and Mathias will all be guys that play in that 30 mpg range.

Albrecht is going to see the majority of the minutes at the point if he is indeed healthy, which will cut into C. Edwards' minutes...or move some of them to the two (which I think may happen).

Personally, I know there was an article not long ago that touched on it, but I think Purdue will go small at times with Swanigan and the 5, Vince at the 4, Mathias at the 3, Cline at the 2 and then Spike (or potentially C. Edwards)...that line-up is tough to match up with and provides plenty of perimeter shooting that would in turn allow Caleb to have plenty of space in the paint in which to operate. If Peters were somehow part of the mix, you could put him at the 4, Vince at the 3, and then a combination of Mathias/Cline/Albrecht at the 1 and 2.

If Mathias averages 30 MPG, that might be an indication that Painter has clear favorites. He's good, but is he THAT good? Also, everyone is prone to foul trouble, so I wouldn't all but guarantee that anyone will average 30 MPG or more.

 

[DG10]

If Mathias averages 30 MPG, that might be an indication that Painter has clear favorites. He's good, but is he THAT good? Also, everyone is prone to foul trouble, so I wouldn't all but guarantee that anyone will average 30 MPG or more.

Painter absolutely has favorites...he is on record stating as much...and he has made it abundantly clear that he really likes Mathias and what he can do...all of that said, his quote regarding favorites is generally something along the line of the guys that do what they are supposed to do all of the time...on the floor and off of it...and that produce results...on the floor and off of it...are "his favorites".

Mathias is a very good all around player, and Purdue plays better generally when he is on the floor. If he is consistently knocking shots down, with everything else that he provides, then he will approach that 30 mpg average...Swanigan will be there, barring the foul trouble scenario that you referenced, but he was/is not a guy that is prone to foul trouble generally...his skills and ability to play two positions (while giving Purdue two entirely different looks), in conjunction with his stamina and physical condition, will make him a virtual fixture on the floor.

 

[Emartin70287]

I would pretty much almost guarantee swanigan and edwards will both average 30 mpg. They were pretty close last year as freshman and sophmore.

 

[TC4THREE]

I think Mathias and Cline will be a matter of trying to find and ride the hot hand from game to game.

 

[seminolesboilers]

If Mathias averages 30 MPG, that might be an indication that Painter has clear favorites. He's good, but is he THAT good? Also, everyone is prone to foul trouble, so I wouldn't all but guarantee that anyone will average 30 MPG or more.

Last year...Mathias had the highest basketball IQ in the backcourt for Purdue.

 

[dumpsterFyre]

Why do you think he wouldn't get starter's minutes? One of the three PG types (Thompson, CE, or Albrecht), VE, Peters, Swanigan, and Haas is a possible lineup. If Haas gets fatigued or into foul trouble, Peters could play the 4 in a lineup of (insert PG), Mathias, VE, himself, and Swanigan. There are a lot of different lineups that could work with him in them.

That would be the slowest lineup in the NCAA.

 

[Dakota Girl]

If Mathias averages 30 MPG, that might be an indication that Painter has clear favorites. He's good, but is he THAT good? Also, everyone is prone to foul trouble, so I wouldn't all but guarantee that anyone will average 30 MPG or more.

Coaches do have favorites. They are the ones playing the most because the coach believes they help the team the most.

That would be the slowest lineup in the NCAA.

way to slow! We were slow defensively last year with two bigs in together. A third would be a defensive disaster. Adding another short term player just because there is space is not a good idea. Maybe if it were a slashing 2 with a respectable jumper but not another big.

 

[DG10]

Coaches do have favorites. They are the ones playing the most because the coach believes they help the team the most.

way to slow! We were slow defensively last year with two bigs in together. A third would be a defensive disaster. Adding another short term player just because there is space is not a good idea. Maybe if it were a slashing 2 with a respectable jumper but not another big.

Last year's team definitely lacked athleticism, and this year's stands to as well...I personally think that is what sparked the interest in Antetokounmpo. That said, Peters is a fairly athletic big.

The appeal of a short-term player in Peters' case is that there is indeed space, but that the guy is talented and would potentially be a difference-maker...he can play in the post as well as on the perimeter, and he would be a perfect fit for the smaller Purdue lineup.

Purdue was not a good defensive team last year...perhaps it was due to being slow...I think it was due to some guys just not being fundamentally sound (Edwards has the ability and athleticism to be a solid defender), some being physically overmatched (Swanigan, Cline and Thompson in particular, but Mathias at times as well)....and it is probably a combination of both...regardless, it stands to be an issue again, but less of one if Purdue plays small with Swanigan at the 5, especially if C. Edwards is on the floor.

All of that said...and Painter has alluded to it at times already...barring having a guy like Chris Kramer setting the tone out top, Purdue is not going to win games at the defensive end and it needs to score more as a result...leading to his desire to get Cline and Mathias on the floor more together. Albrecht and C. Edwards should both be able to help in that regard also, and if Peters somehow did end up at Purdue, he would help as well in that he is pretty gifted at the offensive end of the floor.

 

[purduedavie]

Peters is a stud, if e came, he's a 25 minute player, a 4 man rotation of Haas-Biggie-Edwards-Peters would be amazing, 120 minutes would equal 30 minutes per guy, Basil could still get 10-15 minutes by limiting each to 25-26 minutes per night!

 

[BoilerBF]

[QUOTE="DG10, post: 1017447, member:

Purdue was not a good defensive team last year...perhaps it was due to being slow...I think it was due to some guys just not being fundamentally sound [/QUOTE]

Purdue finished 19th in Kenpom defensive rankings. Purdue was a good defensive team last year. TBD on defense next year....AJH and Davis were the two biggest reasons we were good defensively last year.

 

[Secrefreakintariat]

We were pretty good at D last year....I know the Kenpom rating was good but we really struggled to force turnovers. It seems to me this is where Basil could really help this team this year. We really need Biggie to step it up on defense too - AJ bailed us out so many times protecting the rim like he could.

 

[Dakota Girl]

Last year's team definitely lacked athleticism, and this year's stands to as well...I personally think that is what sparked the interest in Antetokounmpo. That said, Peters is a fairly athletic big.

The appeal of a short-term player in Peters' case is that there is indeed space, but that the guy is talented and would potentially be a difference-maker...he can play in the post as well as on the perimeter, and he would be a perfect fit for the smaller Purdue lineup.

Purdue was not a good defensive team last year...perhaps it was due to being slow...I think it was due to some guys just not being fundamentally sound (Edwards has the ability and athleticism to be a solid defender), some being physically overmatched (Swanigan, Cline and Thompson in particular, but Mathias at times as well)....and it is probably a combination of both...regardless, it stands to be an issue again, but less of one if Purdue plays small with Swanigan at the 5, especially if C. Edwards is on the floor.

All of that said...and Painter has alluded to it at times already...barring having a guy like Chris Kramer setting the tone out top, Purdue is not going to win games at the defensive end and it needs to score more as a result...leading to his desire to get Cline and Mathias on the floor more together. Albrecht and C. Edwards should both be able to help in that regard also, and if Peters somehow did end up at Purdue, he would help as well in that he is pretty gifted at the offensive end of the floor.

Sounds like peters is not the power type 4 I was assuming him to be. That helps. I see this team being significantly better on offense than last year. How well they defend will become key. Not that they have to be better than last year on D but not slip too much to wipe out projected offensive gains.

 

[SoCalFan]

Re-read the article in my third post of the thread. The tone from Peters comes off as believing that Bryce Drew (and assistant Roger Powell) betrayed or (at the very least) abandoned the Valpo program and the returning players. Maybe he also thinks it's going to be tougher to showcase his team (i.e. make the NCAA's) and himself with the player losses from this past season.

He would come to Purdue because it's not incredibly far from his hometown (Washington, IL), it's not far from Valparaiso (where I'm sure he'll still have friends and such) and he'd play for a team and program that, on paper, looks to be a good bet to make the NCAA's this coming season and he would definitely play in a fair amount of nationally televised games (i.e. more exposure).

I didn't see anything resembling betrayal by the prior staff. What I did read is that coaches form other programs can't have contact with kids on other teams...that means that Drew wasn't allowed to contact Peters once he took the job at Vanderbilt. That rules makes all the sense in the world...without it, there would be widespread tampering by departing coaches.

 

[DrEss]

I laugh at most threads here. So many opposite takes on everything. Laughable

 

[TC4THREE]

So is there anything that suggests Peters is actually looking at Purdue or is this just idle message board conjecture?

 

[SoCalFan]

So is there anything that suggests Peters is actually looking at Purdue or is this just idle message board conjecture?

My goodness. Doesn't every significan transfer or 5 star look at the Boilers?

 

[DG10]

[QUOTE="DG10, post: 1017447, member:

Purdue was not a good defensive team last year...perhaps it was due to being slow...I think it was due to some guys just not being fundamentally sound

Purdue finished 19th in Kenpom defensive rankings. Purdue was a good defensive team last year. TBD on defense next year....AJH and Davis were the two biggest reasons we were good defensively last year.[/QUOTE]
Purdue's Kenpom ranking was driven by a weak non-conference schedule...at one point, Purdue led the nation I believe when they were 11-0...Purdue was exposed repeatedly against the better teams in conference play (as well as Butler), and it could not get a stop for its life when it needed one down the stretch against UALR in the tournament...they surrendered 50+ points at least 3 times in a half last year...most important, Painter was on record multiple times during the course of the year stating directly that the Kenpom ranking was irrelevant, as they were not very good defensively...and they were not...they were horrible against the high pick and roll in several games (Minnesota abused them), and they were not good at all on the perimeter at stopping dribble-drive penetration...AJ bailed Purdue out repeatedly on the back end, and Haas does not have that same ability. Purdue was not a horrible defensive team by any means (largely directly attributable to having AJ), but it was not a good defensive team either.

 

[boilerzz]

So is there anything that suggests Peters is actually looking at Purdue or is this just idle message board conjecture?

My goodness. Doesn't every significan transfer or 5 star look at the Boilers?

It's a Nagemj02 thing.

 

[takedownboiler]

Not really a fair statement bc had biggie decided to stay in the draft. I would bet anything painter would be blowing up this kids phone. Would have filled a huge need.

 

[BoilerBF]

Purdue's Kenpom ranking was driven by a weak non-conference schedule...at one point, Purdue led the nation I believe when they were 11-0...Purdue was exposed repeatedly against the better teams in conference play (as well as Butler), and it could not get a stop for its life when it needed one down the stretch against UALR in the tournament...they surrendered 50+ points at least 3 times in a half last year...most important, Painter was on record multiple times during the course of the year stating directly that the Kenpom ranking was irrelevant, as they were not very good defensively...and they were not...they were horrible against the high pick and roll in several games (Minnesota abused them), and they were not good at all on the perimeter at stopping dribble-drive penetration...AJ bailed Purdue out repeatedly on the back end, and Haas does not have that same ability. Purdue was not a horrible defensive team by any means (largely directly attributable to having AJ), but it was not a good defensive team either.[/QUOTE]


Kenpom factors in strength of schedule.....Purdue finished the year 19th in defense. That is a good defense....anyway you slice it.

Not a great defense....but a good one.

 

[purdue4sure]

Purdue's Kenpom ranking was driven by a weak non-conference schedule...at one point, Purdue led the nation I believe when they were 11-0...Purdue was exposed repeatedly against the better teams in conference play (as well as Butler), and it could not get a stop for its life when it needed one down the stretch against UALR in the tournament...they surrendered 50+ points at least 3 times in a half last year...most important, Painter was on record multiple times during the course of the year stating directly that the Kenpom ranking was irrelevant, as they were not very good defensively...and they were not...they were horrible against the high pick and roll in several games (Minnesota abused them), and they were not good at all on the perimeter at stopping dribble-drive penetration...AJ bailed Purdue out repeatedly on the back end, and Haas does not have that same ability. Purdue was not a horrible defensive team by any means (largely directly attributable to having AJ), but it was not a good defensive team either.

Kenpom factors in strength of schedule.....Purdue finished the year 19th in defense. That is a good defense....anyway you slice it.

Not a great defense....but a good one.[/QUOTE]
Two defensive POY winners makes for a solid defense. They didn't get many steals due to lack of quickness, but overall they guarded the basket well, holding opponents to low shooting %. And they rebounded well, giving opponents limited 2nd shots.

 

[nagemj02]

Coaches do have favorites. They are the ones playing the most because the coach believes they help the team the most.

way to slow! We were slow defensively last year with two bigs in together. A third would be a defensive disaster. Adding another short term player just because there is space is not a good idea. Maybe if it were a slashing 2 with a respectable jumper but not another big.

Peters isn't really a big. He's a combo forward. If they have a big lineup out there, why not play a 2-3 or 3-2 to counter dribble-penetration and the like? That's original though, attaching yourself to dumpsterfyre's comment and trying to pile on with it.

 

[BoilerBF]

Kenpom factors in strength of schedule.....Purdue finished the year 19th in defense. That is a good defense....anyway you slice it.

Not a great defense....but a good one.

Two defensive POY winners makes for a solid defense. They didn't get many steals due to lack of quickness, but overall they guarded the basket well, holding opponents to low shooting %. And they rebounded well, giving opponents limited 2nd shots.[/QUOTE]

Agree with all of that. Some weaknesses....some strengths....add it together and it was 19th best defense.

 

[nagemj02]

I didn't see anything resembling betrayal by the prior staff. What I did read is that coaches form other programs can't have contact with kids on other teams...that means that Drew wasn't allowed to contact Peters once he took the job at Vanderbilt. That rules makes all the sense in the world...without it, there would be widespread tampering by departing coaches.

From the article: "Coach Bryce, Coach Powell, they were supposed to be the ones that were advocating for me, getting this stuff setup," Peters said. "That was kind of a worried period there after they left. Who's going to help me do this?"


It's not exactly a ringing endorsement from him for them.


"The NBA wasn't the only topic of conversation on Thursday as Peters made his first public comments about Valparaiso since the day he declared for the draft, which was the same day Lottich was announced as Valparaiso's new coach.

"He's fired up about it and I think a lot of the guys here are fired up about it too," Peters said. "He's taken the bull by the horns, he's taking the reins and started to point this ship forward instead of a sideways turn when everything was kind of transitioning. I'm happy for him and extremely appreciative of everything he's been doing for me the last month."


He doesn't mention himself being fired up when discussing the coaching change. There are subtle things said and not said by Peters in this article that lead me to believe he's going to transfer.

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[SoCalFan]

From the article: "Coach Bryce, Coach Powell, they were supposed to be the ones that were advocating for me, getting this stuff setup," Peters said. "That was kind of a worried period there after they left. Who's going to help me do this?"


It's not exactly a ringing endorsement from him for them.


"The NBA wasn't the only topic of conversation on Thursday as Peters made his first public comments about Valparaiso since the day he declared for the draft, which was the same day Lottich was announced as Valparaiso's new coach.

"He's fired up about it and I think a lot of the guys here are fired up about it too," Peters said. "He's taken the bull by the horns, he's taking the reins and started to point this ship forward instead of a sideways turn when everything was kind of transitioning. I'm happy for him and extremely appreciative of everything he's been doing for me the last month."


He doesn't mention being fired up himself about the coaching change and the hiring of Lottich. They are subtle things said and not said by Peters in this article that lead me to believe he's going to transfer.

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I agree that he is a likely transfer candidate, but didn't the article say that coaches from other schools are not allowed to speak to players at other schools? The rule makes total sense. If Drew is now at Vanderbilt, wouldn't he be violating a NCAA rule by calling Peters? Not trying to be difficult...just not sure it is fair to criticize the former coach.

 

[purdue4sure]

I agree that he is a likely transfer candidate, but didn't the article say that coaches from other schools are not allowed to speak to players at other schools? The rule makes total sense. If Drew is now at Vanderbilt, wouldn't he be violating a NCAA rule by calling Peters? Not trying to be difficult...just not sure it is fair to criticize the former coach.

This is my understanding, too. I believe it's referred to as the no-poaching rule.

 

[SoCalFan]

This is my understanding, too. I believe it's referred to as the no-poaching rule.

Agreed.