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affects of Weatherford transferring

Summy1

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With Weatherford transferring what affects take place. Does Purdue add another pg to this years class or do they wait and add another scholly to 2017?

I think they could use another pg for next season. Edwards and Thompson are it unless Mathias gets time there?
 
I'm sure they'll be monitoring transfers, 5th-year and otherwise. Some experience at point guard and in the post would seem like top priorities to me.
 
I'm sure they'll be monitoring transfers, 5th-year and otherwise. Some experience at point guard and in the post would seem like top priorities to me.


At first I was wondering if a 5th year player would want to come here being behind Thompson and maybe Edwards but then I thought they could pick up a player like Hill that just wants some playing time and wants to experience going to the tournament in March.
 
He averaged 11 min. a game. Would he get even that with Purdue?
I really liked his game. I'm not sure why Izzo didn't play him more, other than he was playing the seniors a lot of minutes. Haas didn't average much more than that for us.
 
Saw Old Boiler on Twitter saying Canyon Barry is on the radar screen. Rick Barry's son.
 
Def could use another experienced ball handler for 2016. We should be a fairly attractive landing spot due to the recent success of Octeus and Hill getting immediate PT and meshing on tourney caliber teams.
 
the header " affects of Weatherford transferring" is confusing. What does that even mean?
or did the poster mean "effects of Weatherford transferring"

I understand typos; we all make them. Misused words, otoh, are just annoying. They create confusion.
 
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"Creaned" can no longer be a term used by the Purdue fan base because there have been a hell of a lot of players being "Paintered" recently.

I get this. And even more than players leaving is PG's not sticking around. It's a legitimate concern. I think most on here did not have extremely high hopes of Weatherford and are ok with this, but our inility to keep and develop a PG (or better yet, pg'S) is disturbing.
 
I get this. And even more than players leaving is PG's not sticking around. It's a legitimate concern. I think most on here did not have extremely high hopes of Weatherford and are ok with this, but our inility to keep and develop a PG (or better yet, pg'S) is disturbing.
It almost makes no sense to me. Weatherford was committed enough to the team to RS. I see know reason for him to transfer unless Matt told him to go or said that he plans on never playing him.
 
"Creaned" can no longer be a term used by the Purdue fan base because there have been a hell of a lot of players being "Paintered" recently.
I fear you use the term incorrectly, unless you are emphasizing the differences between the way Crean handles scholarships and the way Painter handles players. When Crean overcommits on his scholarships, he must force out an upper-class player. That is not what has happened at Purdue. Hence the difference between Painted and Creaned. I guess Painted means you have a one-on-one talk with you=r coach about your future as a player in the Purdue program. If the player decides to leave, then, and only then, Painter can use the empty scholarship for a new player. That is so fundamentally different than the approach Crean has taken in both MU and IU that I am surprised you don't understand. Oh wait, I forgot about your agenda.

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I fear you use the term incorrectly, unless you are emphasizing the differences between the way Crean handles scholarships and the way Painter handles players. When Crean overcommits on his scholarships, he must force out an upper-class player. That is not what has happened at Purdue. Hence the difference between Painted and Creaned. I guess Painted means you have a one-on-one talk with you=r coach about your future as a player in the Purdue program. If the player decides to leave, then, and only then, Painter can use the empty scholarship for a new player. That is so fundamentally different than the approach Crean has taken in both MU and IU that I am surprised you don't understand. Oh wait, I forgot about your agenda.

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Oh sorry. Should of came to you Mathboy to understand the difference in two situations that involve forcing kids out of programs. Still Painter forced Weatherford out. Why would he transfer if he didn't get forced out? He wont be a commodity and he knew he would have to fight for every minute he gets at Purdue.
 
Oh sorry. Should of came to you Mathboy to understand the difference in two situations that involve forcing kids out of programs. Still Painter forced Weatherford out. Why would he transfer if he didn't get forced out? He wont be a commodity and he knew he would have to fight for every minute he gets at Purdue.
Grant might have left to play somewhere else. If he was forced out, then who are we awarding the scholarship to? I will wait for that answer.

When our friend to the south "forces" a player out, it is because he is over committed. Are we over committed? Another key answer to determine the correct use of the word "Creaned". Are we? Has Painter committed to more scholarships than we are allowed to give?

Look, plenty of players leave programs because they are a bad fit, because they want to play more, or because they just want something different. That is not a "force out". It is not being "Creaned". Frankly, I object to you drawing this inaccurate parallel to the term "Creaned" because it lets our friends off the hook for the bad behavior of their coach. Don't do it.


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It almost makes no sense to me. Weatherford was committed enough to the team to RS. I see know reason for him to transfer unless Matt told him to go or said that he plans on never playing him.

It's really simple. Grant wasn't B10 caliber. Period. That's not being mean, just being honest. Some kids are D2 level talent, and there's nothing wrong with that.
With the weak section of Painter teams being the PG position, a questionable talent isn't what the program needs.
 
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It's really simple. Grant wasn't B10 caliber. Period. That's not being mean, just being honest. Some kids are D2 level talent, and there's nothing wrong with that.
With the weak section of Painter teams being the PG position, a questionable talent isn't what the program needs.
I know Grant was always questioned about not being talented enough. I felt like a guy like him would play the role of going in and giving 100%. Teams need those guys who just make practice rough. I guess I just figured Grant would of been a 4 year guy with a possible 5th year transfer. It really is confusing as well since Grant was going to Purdue to be an engineer. Best of luck to him anyways and hope he turns into a solid player.
 
You would have to be a complete moron to believe he was forced out. Unfortunately we have people here that qualify.

We already had two open scholarships for next season and this will create a third. I'm pretty sure that CMP would rather have Weatherford on the bench next year than nobody.
 
At the moment that leaves us with 4 schollys for 2017 unless they add someone this year besides a 5th year transfer. I keep hearing about how good the 2017 class is, but do you think we will really get four 4star quality players?
 
You would have to be a complete moron to believe he was forced out. Unfortunately we have people here that qualify.

We already had two open scholarships for next season and this will create a third. I'm pretty sure that CMP would rather have Weatherford on the bench next year than nobody.
Sorry Coach!
 
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At the moment that leaves us with 4 schollys for 2017 unless they add someone this year besides a 5th year transfer. I keep hearing about how good the 2017 class is, but do you think we will really get four 4star quality players?
Nope don't think another Hummel, 3Twaun, and JJ class is coming for a long time. I like that we have been landing solid recruits every year which gives us quality depth. Depth was something Hummel's teams lacked. I could see 2017 being a year of landing maybe two 4* but not sure top recruits will be looking to join a senior led team that already has a solid core.
 
At the moment that leaves us with 4 schollys for 2017 unless they add someone this year besides a 5th year transfer. I keep hearing about how good the 2017 class is, but do you think we will really get four 4star quality players?

Would be nice to recruit another group of "Baby Boilers" that could come to Purdue to play together.
 
Nope don't think another Hummel, 3Twaun, and JJ class is coming for a long time. I like that we have been landing solid recruits every year which gives us quality depth. Depth was something Hummel's teams lacked. I could see 2017 being a year of landing maybe two 4* but not sure top recruits will be looking to join a senior led team that already has a solid core.

We will have a lot of Seniors on the team. I guess a recruit can think they will get some playing time and be the main person the following season. Most great kids now of days want to play right away though.
 
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Oh sorry. Should of came to you Mathboy to understand the difference in two situations that involve forcing kids out of programs. Still Painter forced Weatherford out. Why would he transfer if he didn't get forced out? He wont be a commodity and he knew he would have to fight for every minute he gets at Purdue.

Yes, you should have come to Mathboy!
 
unbalanced classes is the major concern for me.
many also talk about lack of having and maintaining leadership, seems more difficult when few become seniors.

not counting low minute guys like anthrop, wohlford, the last time we graduated 3 contributing seniors in a class was 2012 (due to RHs injury).
just seems really low, but maybe it's not abnormal (not including teams w/frequent nba departures)?
2017 - 2
2016 - 2 + a 1-year guy
2015 - 1-year guy
2014 - 2 + 2 1-year guys
2013 - 1
2012 - 3
2011 - 2 (not counting RH)
2010 - 2
 
I'm sure they'll be monitoring transfers, 5th-year and otherwise. Some experience at point guard and in the post would seem like top priorities to me.
What about that Cullen Neal. I realize a combo guard. He has been visiting many teams. If you switched him out for Weatherford. That's an improvement in talent.
 
I thought this transfer was in the works since he was ejected from a high school basketball game this past year
 
I don't see what the big deal is, the guy hasn't even played 1 second and a lot of people are making a big deal out of him transferring. Basically it just opens up another scholarship, no telling how good a player he would be. He wants to transfer, I hope he does well, but I don't see how it will affect the team.
 
I don't see what the big deal is, the guy hasn't even played 1 second and a lot of people are making a big deal out of him transferring. Basically it just opens up another scholarship, no telling how good a player he would be. He wants to transfer, I hope he does well, but I don't see how it will affect the team.

That's exactly why it's a big deal.....
 
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What about that Cullen Neal. I realize a combo guard. He has been visiting many teams. If you switched him out for Weatherford. That's an improvement in talent.

I had heard that we were not interested in him but that was before this transfer. I don't know if that changes anything. I'm guessing not. If they thought he was a bad fit before Weatherford transferred I don't think this will change that.
 
That's exactly why it's a big deal.....
Didn`t Painter offer after G.W. and Cline played together on a allstar game outastate and it was his defense that made him. Maybe I`m wrong but there had to be something he wasn`t a big time scorer.
 
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