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A Repub senator even dumber and more reckless than Biden

NATO is gonna remove MAP from the process, making the path easier for Ukraine’s admission. But nothing will happen until the war is over. Article 5.

Like you care. You’re against Ukraine and pro Russia because it’s the opposite of Biden’s position. Period. Independent thinker.
 
NATO is gonna remove MAP from the process, making the path easier for Ukraine’s admission. But nothing will happen until the war is over. Article 5.

Like you care. You’re against Ukraine and pro Russia because it’s the opposite of Biden’s position. Period. Independent thinker.
So many things to ask? Are you calling yourself an independent thinker? That You are even a thinker let alone capable of having an Independent thought that is anything but TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. You support the absolute dumbest, most vile President in US history and it isn't even close. That is some independent thinking!
 
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NATO is gonna remove MAP from the process, making the path easier for Ukraine’s admission. But nothing will happen until the war is over. Article 5.

Like you care. You’re against Ukraine and pro Russia because it’s the opposite of Biden’s position. Period. Independent thinker.
I'm pro avoiding a nuclear exchange with Russia. Very pro on that.

It is possible this whole deadly war could have been avoided had Biden simply said that US does not support Ukraine joining NATO. It certainly could not have made anything worse to do so, but your savior or those who control him were too stupid and bloodthirsty to do so.

 
I'm pro avoiding a nuclear exchange with Russia. Very pro on that.

It is possible this whole deadly war could have been avoided had Biden simply said that US does not support Ukraine joining NATO. It certainly could not have made anything worse to do so, but your savior or those who control him were too stupid and bloodthirsty to do so.

We were a lot closer to a nuclear exchange many times in the 45 years of the cold war than we are now.

Stupid is caving into Russian demands as the previous Republican Party correctly believed and had a bedrock policy against. They also believed that America had a responsibility to stand up for democracy and international borders.

You seem to forget, or just didn’t know, that in the Budapest agreement of ‘94 Russia promised not to invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But by all means let’s believe what Putin says.

Bloodthirsty lol.

No need to worry. Trump will have it solved in 24 hours. So easy.
 
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We were a lot closer to a nuclear exchange many times in the 45 years of the cold war than we are now.

Stupid is caving into Russian demands as the previous Republican Party correctly believed and had a bedrock policy against. They also believed that America had a responsibility to stand up for democracy and international borders.

You seem to forget, or just didn’t know, that in the Budapest agreement of ‘94 Russia promised not to invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But by all means let’s believe what Putin says.

Bloodthirsty lol.

No need to worry. Trump will have it solved in 24 hours. So easy.
Can you actually function without mentioning Trump ? I don't mean just here but even ordering lunch or making a deposit at the bank?
 
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We were a lot closer to a nuclear exchange many times in the 45 years of the cold war than we are now.
I want it to stay that way by not getting the US involved in a direct conflict with Russia should Ukraine be added to NATO. Pretty clear that cost/benefit and risk assessment are unknown concepts to you.
Stupid is caving into Russian demands as the previous Republican Party correctly believed and had a bedrock policy against. They also believed that America had a responsibility to stand up for democracy and international borders.
Ukraine is not anything close to a democracy. Most repubs do stand up for international borders when those borders bound the US, such as our southern boarder across which drugs, child labor and sex trafficking have been a thriving business under your savior Joe, great humanitarian that he is.
You seem to forget, or just didn’t know, that in the Budapest agreement of ‘94 Russia promised not to invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But by all means let’s believe what Putin says.
At the very least, saying we opposed Ukraine entering NATO would have removed a propaganda angle from Putin. At best, it might have stopped him from invading. Another simple cost/benefit analysis that is beyond you.
Bloodthirsty lol.
How do you characterize those in the mil-industrial-foreign policy establishment who promote and profit from war?
No need to worry. Trump will have it solved in 24 hours. So easy.
I am certain Trump would have told Putin the US does not support Ukraine entering NATO. Obviously, he is much smarter than you, Joe, and the nitwit Lindsey Graham all put together.
 
I want it to stay that way by not getting the US involved in a direct conflict with Russia should Ukraine be added to NATO. Pretty clear that cost/benefit and risk assessment are unknown concepts to you.

Ukraine is not anything close to a democracy. Most repubs do stand up for international borders when those borders bound the US, such as our southern boarder across which drugs, child labor and sex trafficking have been a thriving business under your savior Joe, great humanitarian that he is.

At the very least, saying we opposed Ukraine entering NATO would have removed a propaganda angle from Putin. At best, it might have stopped him from invading. Another simple cost/benefit analysis that is beyond you.

How do you characterize those in the mil-industrial-foreign policy establishment who promote and profit from war?

I am certain Trump would have told Putin the US does not support Ukraine entering NATO. Obviously, he is much smarter than you, Joe, and the nitwit Lindsey Graham all put together.
I’ll say it again. Pay attention. Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO as long as they are at war with Russia. Obviously you unfamiliar with article 5 of the NATO charter. It says any attack on a NATO member in Europe or North America “shall be considered an attack against them all.” Accepting Ukraine into NATO would require them to defend Ukraine if they are attacked by Russia. Clear?

Ukraine had presidential and parliamentary elections in 2019 that were considered fair by international observers. So yeah, they are something close to a democracy, your pro Russia position notwithstanding Yes, some organizations loyal to Putin have been banned. And power is usually centralized when under direct military threat from a superpower who dominated every facet of life in the country for 70 years. It sure would be great if Ukraine could flip the switch and become a perfect democracy overnight. Russia makes that impossible.

Nothing on Russia violating the Budapest agreement? But you would trust Putin not to invade simply because we said we opposed Ukraine in NATO? Putin wants a return to the iron curtain you idiot. He’s old school KGB. He doesn’t want an Ukraine that isn’t controlled by Russia. Even if Ukraine didn’t join NATO it would be friendly to the west and he won’t tolerate that.

Cost benefit analysis? Wtf. To WHO? These are people who are being slaughtered by an invading superpower. Innocent civilians who want to live free of Socialist control being targeted for no military reason whatsoever. Republicans used to be against that kind of thing. Now all you can say is “what’s in it for me?”. You’re a fcking pig.

Trump would have stood back and watched as Putin rolled through Ukraine. Haven’t you heard, he admires dictators. You would have supported him while criticizing Obama for doing nothing to stop the Crimea takeover. Mr. consistency.

Trump is smart. Oh FFS. Smart like his supporters.

 
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I’ll say it again. Pay attention. Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO as long as they are at war with Russia. Obviously you unfamiliar with article 5 of the NATO charter. It says any attack on a NATO member in Europe or North America “shall be considered an attack against them all.” Accepting Ukraine into NATO would require them to defend Ukraine if they are attacked by Russia. Clear?

Ukraine had presidential and parliamentary elections in 2019 that were considered fair by international observers. So yeah, they are something close to a democracy, your pro Russia position notwithstanding Yes, some organizations loyal to Putin have been banned. And power is usually centralized when under direct military threat from a superpower who dominated every facet of life in the country for 70 years. It sure would be great if Ukraine could flip the switch and become a perfect democracy overnight. Russia makes that impossible.

Nothing on Russia violating the Budapest agreement? But you would trust Putin not to invade simply because we said we opposed Ukraine in NATO? Putin wants a return to the iron curtain you idiot. He’s old school KGB. He doesn’t want an Ukraine that isn’t controlled by Russia. Even if Ukraine didn’t join NATO it would be friendly to the west and he won’t tolerate that.

Cost benefit analysis? Wtf. To WHO? These are people who are being slaughtered by an invading superpower. Innocent civilians who want to live free of Socialist control being targeted for no military reason whatsoever. Republicans used to be against that kind of thing. Now all you can say is “what’s in it for me?”. You’re a fcking pig.

Trump would have stood back and watched as Putin rolled through Ukraine. Haven’t you heard, he admires dictators. You would have supported him while criticizing Obama for doing nothing to stop the Crimea takeover. Mr. consistency.

Trump is smart. Oh FFS. Smart like his supporters.

They are a helluva lot smarter than dumbass Biden supporters like you. ''You are a fcking pig.'' Just thought Id put a reply in BuilderBobby ease so you can see what a total idiot you are.
 
NATO is gonna remove MAP from the process, making the path easier for Ukraine’s admission. But nothing will happen until the war is over. Article 5.

Like you care. You’re against Ukraine and pro Russia because it’s the opposite of Biden’s position. Period. Independent thinker.
This may be most dumbest ass thing I have ever heard. We promise we won’t allow Ukraine into NATO until the war is over. You know. The thing you started the war over. So basically if Putin continues the war in some manner then he gets what’s he intended. Check back with me in the same length of time Russian forces were in Afghanistan.
 
We were a lot closer to a nuclear exchange many times in the 45 years of the cold war than we are now.

Stupid is caving into Russian demands as the previous Republican Party correctly believed and had a bedrock policy against. They also believed that America had a responsibility to stand up for democracy and international borders.

You seem to forget, or just didn’t know, that in the Budapest agreement of ‘94 Russia promised not to invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But by all means let’s believe what Putin says.

Bloodthirsty lol.

No need to worry. Trump will have it solved in 24 hours. So easy.
And the US (and NATO) broke their promises to Russia and continued to expand eastward. And Scranton Joe wrote checks his butt couldn’t cash talking about Ukraine into NATO. All that bravado and here we are with thousands of dead and billions of dollars squandered and our military resources drained. No peace talks in sight. You think this is some thug just taking territory. A spur of the moment thing? This is a leader who is taking the action any other leader would. What you think we would do if an adversary allied with Mexico and was gonna put troops on our border. You need to understand who George Kennan is. And just because I am not afraid to look inward and admit that we were a part of this jacked up situation doesn’t mean you love Putin. It means you can say what idiots our leaders were. This may have been the most avoidable war in my lifetime.

Of course Biden could have simply authorized the A10 Warthog sale..,,
 
NATO is gonna remove MAP from the process, making the path easier for Ukraine’s admission. But nothing will happen until the war is over. Article 5.

Like you care. You’re against Ukraine and pro Russia because it’s the opposite of Biden’s position. Period. Independent thinker.
Yes because you can only be binary. For Ukraine or for Russia.

Has it ever occurred to you that people are just anti war? Do you even know that one of the reasons Russia invaded Ukraine was because they were afraid they'd join NATO? So this push to add them right in the middle of a war is just asking for nukes to fly.

Top that off with the fact that Ukraine is every bit as corrupt and not democratic as Russia is.
 
I'm pro avoiding a nuclear exchange with Russia. Very pro on that.

It is possible this whole deadly war could have been avoided had Biden simply said that US does not support Ukraine joining NATO. It certainly could not have made anything worse to do so, but your savior or those who control him were too stupid and bloodthirsty to do so.

@BuilderBob6 Not to mention all of the billions that have gone missing that we've sent over there. I couldn't imagine any of it making its way back to the Bidens.
 
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We were a lot closer to a nuclear exchange many times in the 45 years of the cold war than we are now.

Stupid is caving into Russian demands as the previous Republican Party correctly believed and had a bedrock policy against. They also believed that America had a responsibility to stand up for democracy and international borders.

You seem to forget, or just didn’t know, that in the Budapest agreement of ‘94 Russia promised not to invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But by all means let’s believe what Putin says.

Bloodthirsty lol.

No need to worry. Trump will have it solved in 24 hours. So easy.
There isn't a democracy to stand up for here. You've been fooled into believing that Ukraine has one, but they don't. Not really.
 
Trump would have stood back and watched as Putin rolled through Ukraine. Haven’t you heard, he admires dictators. You would have supported him while criticizing Obama for doing nothing to stop the Crimea takeover. Mr. consistency.
Then why didn't Putin invade when Trump was in office? Serious question. Why did Putin invade Crimea under Obama and Ukraine under Biden? Why didn't he do it when Trump was in office? I mean if it's so obvious to you that Trump would have just stood back, Putin obviously could have picked up on that too, right? Would have been so much easier for him than right now. According to you Trump wouldn't have even sent aid. Biden is doing WAY more than Trump ever would have. Right? Just take a few to think about this. You need the processing time.
 
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