A comparison of the Purdue vs. Louisville football programs...

[Bob Sienicki]

I continue to hear so much noise about how the UL football program is so much better than Purdue's. So I put together some interesting comparisons for your reading enjoyment, fellow Boilers...

Purdue vs. Louisville Football Programs

Appearances in the Top 12 Bowl Games (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Fiesta, Sun, Peach, Citrus, Outback, Alamo, Holiday, Liberty)
Purdue 11
Louisville 8

Appearances in the traditional New Year’s Six Bowls (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Peach, Fiesta)
Purdue 4
Louisville 3

Program History (Years)
Purdue 130 years (tied for 7th most in the NCAA)
Louisville 99 years (tied for 99th most in the NCAA)

All-Time Wins
Purdue 608
Louisville 512

All-time Win Percentage
Purdue .520
Louisville .527

Conference Championships
Purdue 12 (8 – Big Ten, 4 - IIAA)
Louisville 8 (3 – Big East, 3 – Conference USA, 2 – Missouri Valley)

Heisman Trophy Candidates
Purdue 8 (12 selections: 3 – 2nd, 2 – 3rd, 2 – 4th, 1 – 6th, 4 – 8th)
Louisville 1 (1 selection: 1 – 1st)

Unanimous All-Americans
Purdue 6 (7 selections)
Louisville 2 (2 selections)

Consensus All-Americans
Purdue 20
Louisville 3

Most Players in the NFL Hall-of-Fame
Purdue 4
Louisville 1

Most NFL Pro Bowl Player Selections
Purdue 105
Louisville 63

Most Players in the NFL (All-time)
Purdue 285 (25th)
Louisville 166 (61st)

Most Players in the Super Bowl
Purdue 61 (Tied, 28th)
Louisville 50 (37th)

Most Inductees in the College Football Hall-of-Fame
Purdue 4
Louisville 1

So if Coach Brohm should choose to return to UL, it's pretty clear he won't be taking it to step up in program prestige, but rather because he would likely feel sorry for his alma mater.

And offhand, after the beatdown Brohm took from Fleck, I would be shocked if he turned tail and left because Fleck got the better of him. Brohm isn't going to let anyone accuse him of running from competition in the B1G West. Not now.

JMHOAU

 

[dingles87]

There's no doubt they've been a higher profile team since joining the ACC as we had hazell most those years. But their fans cherrypicking stats/records from time frames where they were Big Least, Conf USA, or independent is laughable. They were a successful mid-major when I was growing up.

 

[Purdue0034]

It would be a damn shame if Brohm were to leave in the middle of this rebuild. I mean it is very likely the Louisville job will come up again in the future and be there for him if ever decides to go there. I also think the Louisville job is sort of like a demotion. The Big Ten is overall a stronger football conference than the ACC imo. If I were him I could not and would not leave for Louisville and I would expect that he won't.

 

[Roeder]

I continue to hear so much noise about how the UL football program is so much better than Purdue's. So I put together some interesting comparisons for your reading enjoyment, fellow Boilers...

Purdue vs. Louisville Football Programs

Appearances in the Top 12 Bowl Games (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Fiesta, Sun, Peach, Citrus, Outback, Alamo, Holiday, Liberty)
Purdue 11
Louisville 8

Appearances in the traditional New Year’s Six Bowls (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Peach, Fiesta)
Purdue 4
Louisville 3

Program History (Years)
Purdue 130 years (tied for 7th most in the NCAA)
Louisville 99 years (tied for 99th most in the NCAA)

All-Time Wins
Purdue 608
Louisville 512

All-time Win Percentage
Purdue .520
Louisville .527

Conference Championships
Purdue 12 (8 – Big Ten, 4 - IIAA)
Louisville 8 (3 – Big East, 3 – Conference USA, 2 – Missouri Valley)

Heisman Trophy Candidates
Purdue 8 (12 selections: 3 – 2nd, 2 – 3rd, 2 – 4th, 1 – 6th, 4 – 8th)
Louisville 1 (1 selection: 1 – 1st)

Unanimous All-Americans
Purdue 6 (7 selections)
Louisville 2 (2 selections)

Consensus All-Americans
Purdue 20
Louisville 3

Most Players in the NFL Hall-of-Fame
Purdue 4
Louisville 1

Most NFL Pro Bowl Player Selections
Purdue 105
Louisville 63

Most Players in the NFL (All-time)
Purdue 285 (25th)
Louisville 166 (61st)

Most Players in the Super Bowl
Purdue 61 (Tied, 28th)
Louisville 50 (37th)

Most Inductees in the College Football Hall-of-Fame
Purdue 4
Louisville 1

So if Coach Brohm should choose to return to UL, it's pretty clear he won't be taking it to step up in program prestige, but rather because he would likely feel sorry for his alma mater.

And offhand, after the beatdown Brohm took from Fleck, I would be shocked if he turned tail and left because Fleck got the better of him. Brohm isn't going to let anyone accuse him of running from competition in the B1G West. Not now.

JMHOAU

Great post. Thanks for looking this up because it puts things in perspective.

 

[Naga Saki]

As a Louisville fan, all-time stats are meaningless when looking at our program. We were about to give up D1 football in the 80s. Everything before that is basically a bottom feeder program and we all know this. But instead of dropping the program our AD made a bold move and hired Howard Schnellenbeger in 1985. He had just guided Miami to their first ever national title. He gave us a reason to enjoy football and breathed life into our program. It took him a few years, but in 1990 we had a great season with recruits mostly from Florida. Played in the Fiesta Bowl and Beat Alabama. We have had a couple of bad coaches since then, but our tragectory has been mostly upward. We have gone from the Missouri Valley conference to Independence, to C-USA, to the Big East, and now the ACC. Yes we were a basketball school, but we have improved our conference because we have improved our football. The 1990 Fiesta Bowl was just our 4th Bowl ever and by far the best bowl we had ever gone to. Since then we have gone to 19 more bowl games. Including the Orange and Sugar.

Our only NFL Hall of Famer, so far, is Johnny Unitas, BTW.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

It would be a damn shame if Brohm were to leave in the middle of this rebuild. I mean it is very likely the Louisville job will come up again in the future and be there for him if ever decides to go there. I also think the Louisville job is sort of like a demotion. The Big Ten is overall a stronger football conference than the ACC imo. If I were him I could not and would not leave for Louisville and I would expect that he won't.

Why would it be a shame for him to go "home", if that's what he wants? I really don't believe anyone on this board believed he'd stay in West Laffy forever. Man's got to do what is best for he and his family.

 

[IndySouthsider]

Why would it be a shame for him to go "home", if that's what he wants? I really don't believe anyone on this board believed he'd stay in West Laffy forever. Man's got to do what is best for he and his family.

Need more than just its home. You’re right it’s got the best for the family and him. There is a lot that goes into a decision like this.

 

[Purdue0034]

Why would it be a shame for him to go "home", if that's what he wants? I really don't believe anyone on this board believed he'd stay in West Laffy forever. Man's got to do what is best for he and his family.

If it was after year 4 or 5 then sure. But after year 2; with all these recruits coming in to rebuild the program into something special and having Rondale here etc. All of the good QB's he has recruited as well; just to leave them high and dry. Hell yes it would be a shame. I mean, good gravy, he is only 3 hours away from Louisville as it is. He can go home any time he has a day off if he is homesick for Louisville. Its not like West Lafayette is not a very nice place to raise a family! If he takes the job; then so be it; But I am not going to be happy about it. He should have just stayed at Western Kentucky until the Louisville job came up if that is the case. I still don't think he is going; I think he made a commitment and has more character than that to just tuck tail and leave. We will see. But if he leaves I know what side of the argument I am on!

 

[Pervis_Griffith]

If it was after year 4 or 5 then sure. But after year 2; with all these recruits coming in to rebuild the program into something special and having Rondale here etc. All of the good QB's he has recruited as well; just to leave them high and dry. Hell yes it would be a shame. I mean, good gravy, he is only 3 hours away from Louisville as it is. He can go home any time he has a day off if he is homesick for Louisville. Its not like West Lafayette is not a very nice place to raise a family! If he takes the job; then so be it; But I am not going to be happy about it. He should have just stayed at Western Kentucky until the Louisville job came up if that is the case. I still don't think he is going; I think he made a commitment and has more character than that to just tuck tail and leave. We will see. But if he leaves I know what side of the argument I am on!

So ... if he leaves, he's tucking tail.

And he shoulda just stayed at Western Kentucky because he shoulda known his former boss would flame out just two years into his tenure at Purdue.

Okaaaayyyyy ......

 

[StoopsTroops2013]

To the original poster, Nice history lesson...but is it true that Purdue Football has not finished a season ranked in the Top 25 since 2003? Your honor, I rest my case.

 

[Purdue0034]

So ... if he leaves, he's tucking tail.

And he shoulda just stayed at Western Kentucky because he shoulda known his former boss would flame out just two years into his tenure at Purdue.

Okaaaayyyyy ......

Well I see your a U of L fan. I am not disrespecting you guys... I just think he started something here at Purdue he needs to finish. If he were to leave this soon; it would totally suck. It is all still hypothetical at this point, but if he were to leave; I am not going to give him the time of the day should the opportunity present itself in the future. Yes, I would be bitter. If he were to leave after 4 or 5 years then I would wish him luck. But if he leaves now.... not going to give him best wishes.

 

[Bob Sienicki]

To the original poster, Nice history lesson...but is it true that Purdue Football has not been ranked in the Top 25 since 2003? Your honor, I rest my case.

You're funny. Why do you think Brohm took the Purdue job to begin with, genius? Yes, Purdue has had some hard times in recent history, as both of our schools have had from time to time. And by all appearances, something you're school is on the cusp of experiencing once again.

But Brohm saw the possibilities at Purdue - the football brands:
1) the Cradle of Quarterbacks, and
2) the Den of Defensive Ends
And he saw that Purdue has a rightful claim to a National Championship.

The only brand I see for Louisville is: Home of Corrupt Athletic Departments.

So you had Johnny U in the HOF? Yeah, I watched him play, and he was a great one. But we have two QBs in the Hall as well - Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and soon to be Drew Brees - Super Bowl winning QBs all.

Yes, your school has had some recent success. But in what conferences? Had you been in the B1G, my guess is your fans would not be tooting their horns anywhere near as much as they are now.

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

 

[StickPurdue]

So ... if he leaves, he's tucking tail.

And he shoulda just stayed at Western Kentucky because he shoulda known his former boss would flame out just two years into his tenure at Purdue.

Okaaaayyyyy ......

It makes perfect sense for him to run towards a program that just fired it’s most successful football coach/mentor for his only sub .500 season 2 years removed from arguably his best season and until the final two games, they were a contender for a playoff spot. Sounds like an AD / fan base I would want to be a part of. Especially with all of the scandals going on with the papa and the basketball program.

Anybody who thinks Louisville right now is a better situation is nuts. The only thing that would have him consider the job is the ties to the university. Thinking anything else is ridiculous. It is a literal dumpster fire right now.

 

[StoopsTroops2013]

You're funny. Why do you think Brohm took the Purdue job to begin with, genius? Yes, Purdue has had some hard times in recent history, as both of our schools have had from time to time. And by all appearances, something you're school is on the cusp of experiencing once again.

But Brohm saw the possibilities at Purdue - the football brands:
1) the Cradle of Quarterbacks, and
2) the Den of Defensive Ends
And he saw that Purdue has a rightful claim to a National Championship.

The only brand I see for Louisville is: Home of Corrupt Athletic Departments.

So you had Johnny U in the HOF? Yeah, I watched him play, and he was a great one. But we have two QBs in the Hall as well - Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and soon to be Drew Brees - Super Bowl winning QBs all.

Yes, your school has had some recent success. But in what conferences? Had you been in the B1G, my guess is your fans would not be tooting their horns anywhere near as much as they are now.

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

I am sorry...I see it differently. We clawed our way up from the bottom. We did not have the BIG 10 prestige or money to utilize. Compared to Purdue, Louisville has done more in modern times with less. And that is just in football. We can look under the hood in other sports if you care to. Good luck with the rest of your season.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I am sorry...I see it differently. We clawed our way up from the bottom. We did not have the BIG 10 prestige or money to utilize. Compared to Purdue, Louisville has done more in modern times with less. And that is just in football. We can look under the hood in other sports if you care to. Good luck with the rest of your season.

Let’s face it. A lot of your “success” has been due to cheating and lower admission standards, if we’re “looking under the hood”...

 

[Ville101]

Boy, you truly know you've hit rock bottom when you have to argue your program is more attractive than Purdue's.

Everything you just listed is bull$hit. If success in the 50s and 60s mattered, Purdue football wouldn’t be a laughing stock. What matters is recent success. Looking at statistics since the turn of the century isn’t cherrypicking. It is the only way of judging where a program is.

Guess I’ll just keep posting this:

Since 2000...

*Louisville has produced wins in the Orange and Sugar bowls, 5 other bowls, and a Heisman trophy
winner just two years ago. Purdue has won no major bowl games, but won 4 other bowls.
*Louisville has won 8 or more games 12 times (6 straight) since 2000. Purdue 4 times (not since 2007).
*Louisville has finished the season ranked 8 out of the last 18 seasons. Purdue hasn't been ranked
since 2003 (LOL).

This debate is pointless because Jeff will be named our head coach in a few week regardless. So once again, good luck with your search.

 

[Ville101]

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

So you think Jeff isn’t a man a values and integrity because he’ll accept an offer to a better job? That’s hilarious.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

So you think Jeff isn’t a man a values and integrity because he’ll accept an offer to a better job? That’s hilarious.

BETTER, that’s interesting!

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Boy, you truly know you've hit rock bottom when you have to argue your program is more attractive than Purdue's.

Everything you just listed is bull$hit. If success in the 50s and 60s mattered, Purdue football wouldn’t be a laughing stock. What matters is recent success. Looking at statistics since the turn of the century isn’t cherrypicking. It is the only way of judging where a program is.

Guess I’ll just keep posting this:

Since 2000...

*Louisville has produced wins in the Orange and Sugar bowls, 5 other bowls, and a Heisman trophy
winner just two years ago. Purdue has won no major bowl games, but won 4 other bowls.
*Louisville has won 8 or more games 12 times (6 straight) since 2000. Purdue 4 times (not since 2007).
*Louisville has finished the season ranked 8 out of the last 18 seasons. Purdue hasn't been ranked
since 2003 (LOL).

This debate is pointless because Jeff will be named our head coach in a few week regardless. So once again, good luck with your search.

History is kind of pointless. Let’s talk the future. Who will be ranked in the top 25 first? Purdue or Louisville. The trajectories of these two programs are going in wildly opposite directions.

 

[Esox54547]

But instead of dropping the program our AD made a bold move and hired Howard Schnellenbeger in 1985.

How exactly was hiring Schnellenberger a bold move lol. He was a great coach that was out of a job after being dumped by the USFL. BTW, he only took that job because he was from the area. Again, that is the only thing Louisville has going for it now.

 

[MilwaukeeBoilerFan]

You're funny. Why do you think Brohm took the Purdue job to begin with, genius? Yes, Purdue has had some hard times in recent history, as both of our schools have had from time to time. And by all appearances, something you're school is on the cusp of experiencing once again.

But Brohm saw the possibilities at Purdue - the football brands:
1) the Cradle of Quarterbacks, and
2) the Den of Defensive Ends
And he saw that Purdue has a rightful claim to a National Championship.

The only brand I see for Louisville is: Home of Corrupt Athletic Departments.

So you had Johnny U in the HOF? Yeah, I watched him play, and he was a great one. But we have two QBs in the Hall as well - Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and soon to be Drew Brees - Super Bowl winning QBs all.

Yes, your school has had some recent success. But in what conferences? Had you been in the B1G, my guess is your fans would not be tooting their horns anywhere near as much as they are now.

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

I like your opinion overall. I'm a bit more nervous in that it is HOME. Father, Mother, Older Brother, Jeff himself and younger brother are all U of L. That is the part that keeps me thinking he might opt for HOME. I can understand that.
The potential for saving Grace is their Athletic Department on the Basketball side has corrupted their institution in a very bad way. Now might not be the right time to return. Clean up their AD Department, their B-Ball team and start rebuilding their Football team again and the next round might be a the more perfect opportunity for Jeff Brohm to return home to next level their program after showing what he can do with Purdue. No doubt he has us turned in the right direction. He might want to see this thru with wind in our sails before looking at "retirement plan" at U of L. He is young and still has a lot of coaching life ahead of him.

 

[elfman]

How exactly was hiring Schnellenberger a bold move lol. He was a great coach that was out of a job after being dumped by the USFL. BTW, he only took that job because he was from the area. Again, that is the only thing Louisville has going for it now.

Louisville hiring Schnellenberger was the equivalent of this hypothetical scenario: Dabo Swinney (who is from Birmingham but played at Alabama) goes pro but after a few years it doesn’t work out. Let’s say UAB is thinking about dropping to FCS, but instead decides to pay $7 million/year to hire Dabo Swinney. That’s the equivalent of the decision Louisville football made by hiring Schnellenberger in the early 1980s. May seem like a no brainer to hire Swinney, but for a program like UAB that would be a huge gamble/investment.

 

[snowsquirrel11]

Boy, you truly know you've hit rock bottom when you have to argue your program is more attractive than Purdue's.

Everything you just listed is bull$hit. If success in the 50s and 60s mattered, Purdue football wouldn’t be a laughing stock. What matters is recent success. Looking at statistics since the turn of the century isn’t cherrypicking. It is the only way of judging where a program is.

Guess I’ll just keep posting this:

Since 2000...

*Louisville has produced wins in the Orange and Sugar bowls, 5 other bowls, and a Heisman trophy
winner just two years ago. Purdue has won no major bowl games, but won 4 other bowls.
*Louisville has won 8 or more games 12 times (6 straight) since 2000. Purdue 4 times (not since 2007).
*Louisville has finished the season ranked 8 out of the last 18 seasons. Purdue hasn't been ranked
since 2003 (LOL).

This debate is pointless because Jeff will be named our head coach in a few week regardless. So once again, good luck with your search.

Money talks, and we have more.

 

[elfman]

How much will Purdue pay to keep Brohm? Whatever the answer, Louisville will at least match—not because Louisville has more money, but because Purdue won’t ridiculously overpay to keep Brohm. I keep hearing about Purdue’s $2.4 billion endowment. That’s great, are you going to tap into that to pay Brohm $10-15 million a year? If not then money is a moot point.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

How much will Purdue pay to keep Brohm? Whatever the answer, Louisville will at least match—not because Louisville has more money, but because Purdue won’t ridiculously overpay to keep Brohm. I keep hearing about Purdue’s $2.4 billion endowment. That’s great, are you going to tap into that to pay Brohm $10-15 million a year? If not then money is a moot point.

I agree money is a moot point. He’s getting paid regardless where he’s coaching next year. It comes down to where Brohm wants to be. He’s going to be coaching for 20 more years. He can still finish what he started at Purdue and retire at Louisville if that is his dream and not jump now. That Louisville job will be open 5 more times between now and then.

 

[chaspark]

How much will Purdue pay to keep Brohm? Whatever the answer, Louisville will at least match—not because Louisville has more money, but because Purdue won’t ridiculously overpay to keep Brohm. I keep hearing about Purdue’s $2.4 billion endowment. That’s great, are you going to tap into that to pay Brohm $10-15 million a year? If not then money is a moot point.

The point is moot because Louisville DOES NOT have $10-15 mil to pay Brohm themselves. Petrino was making 4 mil a year, which earned him the 25th highest paid coach in the country. Brohm currently is at 3.8 mil, slightly below his coaching mentor. In addition to the buyout to Petrino, and the Brohm's buyout to Purdue which they will have to take on, Louisville needs to find over 18 mil just to get Brohm. Seeing as Nick Saban makes a bit over 8 mil at Alabama, I doubt Louisville would pay more, even to Brohm. The realistic number is 5 mil a year, which Purdue can EASILY match and more.

 

[pboiler18]

I am sorry...I see it differently. We clawed our way up from the bottom. We did not have the BIG 10 prestige or money to utilize. Compared to Purdue, Louisville has done more in modern times with less. And that is just in football. We can look under the hood in other sports if you care to. Good luck with the rest of your season.

We'd love to look under the "hood" of that basketball program but the FBI seem to already be doing that.

That AD as a whole is a mess. If i'm brohm....anything i'm promised by Louisville is not a given.

 

[Ville101]

History is kind of pointless. Let’s talk the future. Who will be ranked in the top 25 first? Purdue or Louisville. The trajectories of these two programs are going in wildly opposite directions.

Hard to argue with this. Although, I still think that the ceiling is higher at Louisville than Purdue. That’s just my biased opinion.

 

[elfman]

The point is moot because Louisville DOES NOT have $10-15 mil to pay Brohm themselves. Petrino was making 4 mil a year, which earned him the 25th highest paid coach in the country. Brohm currently is at 3.8 mil, slightly below his coaching mentor. In addition to the buyout to Petrino, and the Brohm's buyout to Purdue which they will have to take on, Louisville needs to find over 18 mil just to get Brohm. Seeing as Nick Saban makes a bit over 8 mil at Alabama, I doubt Louisville would pay more, even to Brohm. The realistic number is 5 mil a year, which Purdue can EASILY match and more.

That’s fine. Like I said, this decision won’t be about money.

 

[Esox54547]

Louisville hiring Schnellenberger was the equivalent of this hypothetical scenario: Dabo Swinney (who is from Birmingham but played at Alabama) goes pro but after a few years it doesn’t work out. Let’s say UAB is thinking about dropping to FCS, but instead decides to pay $7 million/year to hire Dabo Swinney. That’s the equivalent of the decision Louisville football made by hiring Schnellenberger in the early 1980s. May seem like a no brainer to hire Swinney, but for a program like UAB that would be a huge gamble/investment.

That is not quite equivalent. Coaching salaries had not yet exploded. Schnellenberger's contract was about $250,000/year. Close to the top back then, but nowhere near the $7M investment in your hypothetical above.

 

[nat100]

Hard to argue with this. Although, I still think that the ceiling is higher at Louisville than Purdue. That’s just my biased opinion.

Youre in the same division as FSU and Clemson. Youll never recruit like those two schools. This isnt like it was when you were in the Big East.

 

[Matt Tiger]

You're funny. Why do you think Brohm took the Purdue job to begin with, genius? Yes, Purdue has had some hard times in recent history, as both of our schools have had from time to time. And by all appearances, something you're school is on the cusp of experiencing once again.

But Brohm saw the possibilities at Purdue - the football brands:
1) the Cradle of Quarterbacks, and
2) the Den of Defensive Ends
And he saw that Purdue has a rightful claim to a National Championship.

The only brand I see for Louisville is: Home of Corrupt Athletic Departments.

So you had Johnny U in the HOF? Yeah, I watched him play, and he was a great one. But we have two QBs in the Hall as well - Len Dawson and Bob Griese, and soon to be Drew Brees - Super Bowl winning QBs all.

Yes, your school has had some recent success. But in what conferences? Had you been in the B1G, my guess is your fans would not be tooting their horns anywhere near as much as they are now.

Jeff may, in fact, abandon his rebuilding project and his #23 ranked recruiting class to return to his alma mater. I understand the sentimental urge. But then, I don't think Brohm is the kind of guy who abandons something he has started without finishing it - something he preaches to his team. The man has values and integrity - and that is exactly why I think he will not leave Purdue. At least not this time.

Sorry.

I always enjoy your posts.Lets hope you nailed it about Brohm staying at Purdue..I just wish he would say what he is going to do before this week is over with.This has to be a distraction for the team.

 

[StoopsTroops2013]

Let’s face it. A lot of your “success” has been due to cheating and lower admission standards, if we’re “looking under the hood”...

what does lower admission standards have to do with it? that is a choice. where did we cheat? strippers on a recruiting weekend? Adidas? what about baseball, womens basketball, swimming, etc? Get a clue.

 

[StoopsTroops2013]

The point is moot because Louisville DOES NOT have $10-15 mil to pay Brohm themselves. Petrino was making 4 mil a year, which earned him the 25th highest paid coach in the country. Brohm currently is at 3.8 mil, slightly below his coaching mentor. In addition to the buyout to Petrino, and the Brohm's buyout to Purdue which they will have to take on, Louisville needs to find over 18 mil just to get Brohm. Seeing as Nick Saban makes a bit over 8 mil at Alabama, I doubt Louisville would pay more, even to Brohm. The realistic number is 5 mil a year, which Purdue can EASILY match and more.

We can pay....we made Charlie Strong a top 5 paid coach in the country. Petrino was much less on round 2 because he was damaged goods. Do your research gumshoe.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

what does lower admission standards have to do with it? that is a choice. where did we cheat? strippers on a recruiting weekend? Adidas? what about baseball, womens basketball, swimming, etc? Get a clue.

I try to avoid stereotypes... but wow...

 

[elfman]

Youre in the same division as FSU and Clemson. Youll never recruit like those two schools. This isnt like it was when you were in the Big East.

FSU is terrible right now, and we lost to Clemson by less than a TD each of Bobby’s first 3 years (twice stopped inside the 2 yard line in the final minute).

We may have a tough time beating those programs when they are at their best, but they aren’t unbeatable juggernauts every year.

 

[nat100]

FSU is terrible right now, and we lost to Clemson by less than a TD each of Bobby’s first 3 years (twice stopped inside the 2 yard line in the final minute).

We may have a tough time beating those programs when they are at their best, but they aren’t unbeatable juggernauts every year.

Two things

1) FSU will not be down for long and has a recruiting base that blows Louisville and Purdue out of the water. If you think that school will be down for long youre fooling yourself.

2) Clemson recruits at a similar level to FSU.

3) You fired the coach that brought your within a TD of beating a national power. Seems... shortsighted. And Spoiled.

 

[SDBoiler1]

I am sorry...I see it differently. We clawed our way up from the bottom. We did not have the BIG 10 prestige or money to utilize. Compared to Purdue, Louisville has done more in modern times with less. And that is just in football. We can look under the hood in other sports if you care to. Good luck with the rest of your season.

Purdue MBB won 30 games last year. UL won a title under Pitino that now seems tainted in retrospect.

But you must also admit that your Athletic Department has been a real $hit$how in recent years with all that's gone on with Jurich, Rick Pitino, and now Petrino. UL is paying $14M to Petrino to make him go away on top of what is owed to Pitino and other coaches. No doubt, after Joe Tiller retired and Brohm became head coach, Purdue football fell on some hard times. Yet, Purdue beat Ohio State in 2009 and 2011 and won at Michigan in 2009, too. Darrell Hazell was the worst coach Purdue ever hired and Brohm is one of the very best Purdue's ever hired.

 

[Poprudy]

FSU is terrible right now, and we lost to Clemson by less than a TD each of Bobby’s first 3 years (twice stopped inside the 2 yard line in the final minute).

We may have a tough time beating those programs when they are at their best, but they aren’t unbeatable juggernauts every year.

Wasn't that with your only Heisman winner? Jackson is gone buddy! Our recruiting is trending and yours is not. Don't fool yourself, B1G west is an opportunity to claim each year. You will have to face a Clemson and FSU to get the Championship every year. If this fails where would Louisville turn?

 

[BoilerBonz]

There's no doubt they've been a higher profile team since joining the ACC as we had hazell most those years. But their fans cherrypicking stats/records from time frames where they were Big Least, Conf USA, or independent is laughable. They were a successful mid-major when I was growing up.

Agreed, L'ville was a mid major until 90s. I recall when we hosted them here in '87, it was viewed by us as an alternative to a MAC game, although we only tied 'em then, in a sign of things to come with Fred Akers. And when we finally hired a good coach, in Tiller, our AD and BOT used the manna to support non-revenue sports and left football to languish. Meanwhile, L'ville's AD hired a series of good coaches and realized the opportunity to build a major program in a significant non-NFL city with more corporate sponsorship than Purdue could ever dream of.

Purdue's history helps but it's mostly faded glory that went un-capitalized upon. The relevant question is will Brohm stay at a place where the 2 best things going for it, in football, are himself and the new football training facility? Probably not unless he can be convinced the potential is here to return the program to prominence.

What's the missing ingredient at Purdue? A loyal fan base that fills RA through thick and thin, rain or shine. Too many Purdue fans would rather watch at home in their barcalounger. Maybe Brohm is changing that, but why should he have to try to do for us what we won't do for ourselves?!