....furthermore, "fact or reason" - Why hasn't Purdue been to a FF in 43 years? Two coaches who haven't landed the right combination of players to elevate the program to that level.
It's not just guards. It's guards that can create their own shot plus involve others.
Embarrassing? Really? Northwestern Basketball is embarrassing. Penn State basketball fan support is embarrassing. IU basketball chasing coach after coach is embarrassing. Kansas and Louisville buying players is embarrassing. Purdue's lack of FF is definitely frustrating. You can even say it's disappointing or heartbreaking, but there is nothing embarrassing about Purdue basketball.
I mean Purdue is also a high seed every year and has had about as much success as Duke has over the past 6 years without have 4 5 stars per class. I can’t imagine there is a team that has matched or exceeded our seed each year since then, so Purdue is basically the most statistically likely team to get upset. Duke just won their first conference title in 12 years
You don’t think having Hummel or Haas would have given us a chance to win 2 more of those sweet sixteen games ? Dumb.
A chance? Sure. Guaranteed? Absolutely not. As we've seen time and again, a big slow low post player like Haas is easily neutralized.
Please stop comparing Duke basketball to Purdue. There is no comparison.
I'm not intending to sound like Bob Knight on Damien Bailey, but had Purdue had Braden last year with his more mature body today...Purdue would have been a better team last year. That team would have been more focused with someone capable of controlling play better.
What's dumb is believing that Painter would have beaten Coach K in the SS in 2010. With or without Hummel it wasn't going to happen. You are delusional if you believe that.
You are delusional if you think we would have been playing Duke in the S16 with a healthy Hummel.
Nothing is guaranteed. But Hummel and Haas getting hurt decreased our chances of winning those S16 games. That’s a fact.
Then "insert coaches name here" would have beaten Painter in the SS in 2010. You know of the ceiling right? You know it took a once in a lifetime performance from a once in a generation player for Purdue to even get past the SS once under Painter. It wasn't going to happen in 2010, and it's not happening now. Painter may stick around another 7-8 years and leave on the 50th year anniversary since Purdue last went to a FF. Although with this NIL crap he may not even want to stick around that long.
I mean you can say that based in history it would not have happened if you want... but Purdue WAS a better team than Duke that year before the injury. And maybe there have not been other opportunities to beat coach K in the tournament, but both Painter and Keady have beaten Duke in the last 20 years
They were both really good. Around mid-March Duke was #3 and Purdue was #10(would have been higher with Hummel). I can't say that Purdue with Hummel was better than the eventual National Champs. Certainly the teams were on par, but the coaches were light years apart. I doubt that either Painter or Keady ever beat Coach K in the NCAA tournament. That's not saying it didn't happen, I just don't recall it happening.
Ah, emotional ranting. You know what they say about arguing with idiots…
Exactly. We were by far the best team in the BIG and probably would have won the BIG tourney, and gotten a number 1 or 2 seed. Changes the whole run out of that year.
It was #3 when Hummel got hurt, which means a 1 or 2 seed.
We were actually ranked higher than Duke and might have been favored in a Duke-Purdue matchup game, of course with a healthy Hummel. Not delusional.
Now I will agree with the 1 or 2 seed. Easily. But winning the BIG tourney and getting past the SS? Not likely.
Thinking a Painter coached team could beat a Coach K team in the NCAA tournament: Delusional.
Okay, we get it. You're embarrassed by Purdue basketball and hate CMP. My advice is to find a different team to follow as CMP isn't going anywhere.
I'll go a step farther in suggesting that coaches sometimes have kids...good kids pulling in different directions and that changing human thoughts is many times difficult to impossible. That is why Matt said "depth" makes that easier. Then "depth" is never about all players being equal and so your depth may not be as good as another's depth or as another team that doesn't use much depth. I just think we had kids so talented they thought they could turn in on like a light switch...and for a few games they did. However, most eyes knew there was more to give..."IF"...
No. Obviously you don't get it and are too thick to ever get it. Not surprising for you Math-Fanboi types who think you are the "virtuous right kind of Purdue fans". I like Painter and think he is a good coach. Never waivered from that. Painter is not a transformative coach and will never reach a FF. He's just Keady 2.0. Never waivered from that. Not embarrassed by Purdue basketball. What's embarrassing is that a quality program like Purdue hasn't been to a FF in almost 50 years. See the distinction? I didn't think you would. As for the tired Math-Fanboi type of retort of "go find a different team to follow", my degree says otherwise, I don't have a choice. I certainly don't need any advice from your ilk. Next time use rule #7 from the Math-Fanboi handbook. "If someone disagrees with you accuse them of being an IU fan". That rule is the ultimate irony since the leader of the Math-Fanboi fanclub, Math-Fanboi, is an admitted IU fan! You just can't make that stuff up!
Okay tough guy. Maybe relax a bit and enjoy the ride instead of trashing Painter and the program every chance you get. As for me, I'm looking forward to this year's team and will enjoy every moment. Hope you figure out how to enjoy life instead of being bitter about lack of FF success.
Coming up on 50 years of no FF's and tournament losses to the likes of St. Petes? We'll have to agree to disagree! I find that embarrassing for a quality program like Purdue.
I'll make you a bag you can put over your head. Isn't that what fans of embarrassing programs wear?
Hey, wait a minute...... That's usually my line.
