2021 Purdue preview NSIAP

[BCfanatic2020]

I think this guy nailed it. 5-7 and note wbe he attributes ur to the delusional (my word) scheduling. We also agree that there is variance here… as he caps them at 7-5, as do I for the most part.

 

[izakman]

We've been rebuilding since Jeff Brohm & Co got here. I think we turn the corner in a good way. It's time.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

We've been rebuilding since Jeff Brohm & Co got here. I think we turn the corner in a good way. It's time.

We CAN.. this team could go 2-10 or 10-2 based on how everything unfolds.

if it’s just a solid team in all aspects, and the breaks all go our way, both with injuries and bounces, only Ohio state and notre dame are just pencilled in.

if however, you’re hearing that we are weak at DT, we only have one starting caliber safety, neither Jack Plummer nor Aidan O’Connell have improved and after a few injuries on the OL, it’s obvious that one or two guys aren’t big ten ready.. then It could be 3-9.

my bet is on 5-7, followed by 6-6, 4-8, 7-5 and 8-4

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

i don't assume any game as a win or loss, yeah there is all the predictions and so forth. I think team does a lot better this year. going with 8-4

 

[BCfanatic2020]

i don't assume any game as a win or loss, yeah there is all the predictions and so forth. I think team does a lot better this year. going with 8-4

very high probability of losses vs Ohio state and ND. Very high probability of a win against UConn and Illinois. And I don’t disagree that the team COULD go 8-4. I just think there is too much to fix .. haven’t seen evidence that brohm can fix many problems at all. We will see

 

[peytonrules]

What's curious is on this preview he puts the IU game in the 20-80% and on the IU preview he lists it in the Greater than 80% chance that IU wins.

 

[MilwaukeeBoilerFan]

6-6 highly probable. 7-5 possible. I lean to 6-6. Either way, we beat I.U.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

What's curious is on this preview he puts the IU game in the 20-80% and on the IU preview he lists it in the Greater than 80% chance that IU wins.

I always go back to northwestern. How is it that a team that really has no rondale Moore or Dorien Bryant type player can go 10-2 and win like they have? How is it that they have just as many if not more recruiting roadblocks than us and yet get ridiculous results compared to us?

it’s because they master the bottom end. They may not have rondale Moore, but they’ll put 22 guys on the field that you can’t pick on if you’re an opposing coach.

“well what does that mean?” Remember the first time brohm beat Iowa? Our coaches liked at Michael Ojemudia and manny rogumba and said “we can pick on those guys.” And that’s why you can go back to the announcer saying “Michael Ojemudia is out at corner, manny rogumba taking his place.. and they go to Mahougou again! And it doesn’t matter who is on him.”

that was our coaches winning a game by exploiting one player.

what I feel IU has done a good job of is having 22 guys, none of can be turned into the kind of mismatch that mahougou vs. Ojemudia/Rogumba was. That doesn’t mean we won’t drop 50 on them if we are playing great. But if we go into that game and haven’t figured out half of our issues on offense, we aren’t gonna drop 50 because we are taking advantage of a bunch of Mac players …

the bottom end has been Purdue’s problem since 03. That was really the last time we had 22 players you couldn’t exploit. I can go right to 04 when Erasmus James lifted David Owen off the ground and threw him into Kyle Orton’s lap and there’s at least one glaring weak link every year.

even in 2017 when brohm did a great job coming out of the gate… I can look at Gregory Phillips and say .. you know, if he was the kind of player that Isaac Zico was his senior year.. Isaac Zico of course HARDLY being some John standeford/Chris Daniels/keith smith type of player.. if Phillips had been the kind of player Zico was as a senior maybe we beat Michigan, Rutgers and Nebraska and our recruiting is completely different that year…

 

[FirstDownB]

I always go back to northwestern. How is it that a team that really has no rondale Moore or Dorien Bryant type player can go 10-2 and win like they have? How is it that they have just as many if not more recruiting roadblocks than us and yet get ridiculous results compared to us?

it’s because they master the bottom end. They may not have rondale Moore, but they’ll put 22 guys on the field that you can’t pick on if you’re an opposing coach.

“well what does that mean?” Remember the first time brohm beat Iowa? Our coaches liked at Michael Ojemudia and manny rogumba and said “we can pick on those guys.” And that’s why you can go back to the announcer saying “Michael Ojemudia is out at corner, manny rogumba taking his place.. and they go to Mahougou again! And it doesn’t matter who is on him.”

that was our coaches winning a game by exploiting one player.

what I feel IU has done a good job of is having 22 guys, none of can be turned into the kind of mismatch that mahougou vs. Ojemudia/Rogumba was. That doesn’t mean we won’t drop 50 on them if we are playing great. But if we go into that game and haven’t figured out half of our issues on offense, we aren’t gonna drop 50 because we are taking advantage of a bunch of Mac players …

the bottom end has been Purdue’s problem since 03. That was really the last time we had 22 players you couldn’t exploit. I can go right to 04 when Erasmus James lifted David Owen off the ground and threw him into Kyle Orton’s lap and there’s at least one glaring weak link every year.

even in 2017 when brohm did a great job coming out of the gate… I can look at Gregory Phillips and say .. you know, if he was the kind of player that Isaac Zico was his senior year.. Isaac Zico of course HARDLY being some John standeford/Chris Daniels/keith smith type of player.. if Phillips had been the kind of player Zico was as a senior maybe we beat Michigan, Rutgers and Nebraska and our recruiting is completely different that year…

The "all 22" problem is really an "all 85" problem. It's a depth problem, a combination of recruiting, development, and retention at all positions. We've often had good enough starters going into a year to win 8 or 9 games, but with a few key injuries those exploitable matchups start to appear all over the field. Freshmen are rushed onto the field early, guys see action who have no business being on a B1G football field. That's why I don't shrug off the loss of 3 or 4 linemen, paltry linebacker recruiting, or running backs walking away from the program as readily as some others do. It adds up. Check Northwestern's retention rate and that will tell you something.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

The "all 22" problem is really an "all 85" problem. It's a depth problem, a combination of recruiting, development, and retention at all positions. We've often had good enough starters going into a year to win 8 or 9 games, but with a few key injuries those exploitable matchups start to appear all over the field. Freshmen are rushed onto the field early, guys see action who have no business being on a B1G football field. That's why I don't shrug off the loss of 3 or 4 linemen, paltry linebacker recruiting, or running backs walking away from the program as readily as some others do. It adds up. Check Northwestern's retention rate and that will tell you something.

Exactly I agree with all of that. But “if we can only get rondale on the field with bell and Wright” is not it.. it’s .. “if we can only get AND KEEP 22 solid starters on the field.”

And yes, retention rate AND not over recruiting one position and under recruit others is a big part of that. Like the athletic said.. even when our recruiting surged, 80% of the top recruits were skill guys. That’s too much

people see fakasiieki and Douglas being THE GUYS THAT THE COACHES ARE TELLING publications are there guys at MLB and they think “oh he’s a good story.” That’s a huge GLARING mismatch in pass coverage .. and it’s gonna cost us. And If I was brohm I’d be like “okay. We have Saunders, brothers, Alexander and karlaftis (who will be delayed)… we need to do better at that position. Fakasiieki needs to be a situational run guy (heavy use v Wisconsin and Iowa).”

if those two are the answer, even if they are the best people in the world, teams are going to be able to beat us in space

and if they end up not beating us because Lambert does that well with the rest of the defense.. I’ll be giving a standing ovation.. cause that would be great coaching..