2 Potential recruits for 2016....

[PU52Chevy]

I think these two below could fill needs for next year and also for 2017. (One is a RS Senior and other a RS Junior)

3 Star SG Jeremiah Davis III RS SR 6-3 204 eligible for 2016 Transfer from Ball State....could add depth at the 2 and 3 spot, good athlete and close to home in Muncie, IN.

2 Star PF Justus Stanback RS JR 6-8 220 eligible for 2016 Transfer from IUPUI...could add needed depth at the 4 and 5. He is from West Lafayette, IN and is Ian Stanback's son....so may make sense.

Neither would start, but could add needed depth........just a thought.

I am hopeful Kendall Stephen's stays, but if not......maybe the two above help.

I think G. Eifert and Jon McKeeman are awarded a scholarship next year possibly (both or one of them).

Boiler Up!

 

[Dryfly88]

I think these two below could fill needs for next year and also for 2017. (One is a RS Senior and other a RS Junior)

3 Star SG Jeremiah Davis III RS SR 6-3 204 eligible for 2016 Transfer from Ball State....could add depth at the 2 and 3 spot, good athlete and close to home in Muncie, IN.

2 Star PF Justus Stanback RS JR 6-8 220 eligible for 2016 Transfer from IUPUI...could add needed depth at the 4 and 5. He is from West Lafayette, IN and is Ian Stanback's son....so may make sense.

Neither would start, but could add needed depth........just a thought.

I am hopeful Kendall Stephen's stays, but if not......maybe the two above help.

I think G. Eifert and Jon McKeeman are awarded a scholarship next year possibly (both or one of them).

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Don't know anything about the two possible transfers so I won't comment on their ability to help. However, if McKeeman and or Eifert get scholarships I will be very disappointed. We need to use those scholarships for guys that could help the team on the court. Those two guys have no shot of doing that.

 

[mryankee2397]

i wonder how long kendall has to decide whether he is staying or going? only the shadow knows and he is not telling

 

[*4purdue*]

I think these two below could fill needs for next year and also for 2017. (One is a RS Senior and other a RS Junior)

3 Star SG Jeremiah Davis III RS SR 6-3 204 eligible for 2016 Transfer from Ball State....could add depth at the 2 and 3 spot, good athlete and close to home in Muncie, IN.

2 Star PF Justus Stanback RS JR 6-8 220 eligible for 2016 Transfer from IUPUI...could add needed depth at the 4 and 5. He is from West Lafayette, IN and is Ian Stanback's son....so may make sense.

Neither would start, but could add needed depth........just a thought.

I am hopeful Kendall Stephen's stays, but if not......maybe the two above help.

I think G. Eifert and Jon McKeeman are awarded a scholarship next year possibly (both or one of them).

Boiler Up!

I hope not. Neither would see the court. Save the scholarships

 

[nagemj02]

I think these two below could fill needs for next year and also for 2017. (One is a RS Senior and other a RS Junior)

3 Star SG Jeremiah Davis III RS SR 6-3 204 eligible for 2016 Transfer from Ball State....could add depth at the 2 and 3 spot, good athlete and close to home in Muncie, IN.

2 Star PF Justus Stanback RS JR 6-8 220 eligible for 2016 Transfer from IUPUI...could add needed depth at the 4 and 5. He is from West Lafayette, IN and is Ian Stanback's son....so may make sense.

Neither would start, but could add needed depth........just a thought.

I am hopeful Kendall Stephen's stays, but if not......maybe the two above help.

I think G. Eifert and Jon McKeeman are awarded a scholarship next year possibly (both or one of them).

Boiler Up!

J. Stanback and J. Davis can transfer and walk-on if they want, but come on, the coaching staff needs to make these 2016 additions good ones. There's plenty of average DI transfers available: they need to try and find IMPACT newcomers. I don't know why Bane hasn't been offered yet. He can develop in the system and who knows, he might have star qualities to him.

Just curious, are you Morgan Burke?

 

[PU52Chevy]

J. Stanback and J. Davis can transfer and walk-on if they want, but come on, the coaching staff needs to make these 2016 additions good ones. There's plenty of average DI transfers available: they need to try and find IMPACT newcomers. I don't know why Bane hasn't been offered yet. He can develop in the system and who knows, he might have star qualities to him.

Just curious, are you Morgan Burke?

Yes Nag I am Morgan Burke........

If you read my post, it says they could add depth and I think familiarity with Purdue family culture will help the team next year. So bringing in players that can help in practice and help push the starters is the way to go, even more so they are familiar with Purdue with being Ian Stanback's son who played at Purdue last year when his IUPUI Team came to Mackey and Davis who played in Muncie, IN where Matt Painter is from and familiar with him.

This team does not need new players who will start (Besides maybe C. Edwards who will challenge PJ), we have our depth there, but we need complimentary players who will add depth and could help with minutes if needed with injury or foul trouble or special situations.

The reason college basketball has so many transfers is because only so many kids can play and recruiting over the top of them and thus the transfer options comes to light.

If I was MP, I would add quality depth and a seasoned RS Senior and a potential recruit that has two years to give to the team in either a RS JR or JC.

The 2017 class will determine the future of this team, not 2016.

To agree with you Nag, Bane seems like a good athletic talent, but time will tell if he is offered.

Those are my thoughts and my opinions...Always Positive 110% Boiler Up!

 

[TC4THREE]

J. Stanback and J. Davis can transfer and walk-on if they want, but come on, the coaching staff needs to make these 2016 additions good ones. There's plenty of average DI transfers available: they need to try and find IMPACT newcomers. I don't know why Bane hasn't been offered yet. He can develop in the system and who knows, he might have star qualities to him.

Just curious, are you Morgan Burke?

I think the chances of us landing an "impact" newcomer for 2016 at this point are slim and none and we have many open scholarships to fill. I think our best opportunity is trying to find another Sterling Carter, Octeus, or Hill that can come in and fill in some minutes at the point guard position and possibly the same at a PF/C post spot. MAYBE we can rely on Edwards and Taylor as backups there next year but I'd feel better if we have some experienced depth.

I am fine with offering Bane but I don't see him making an immediate impact. Of course, I'd love to be wrong about that but there are reasons he doesn't have many high major offers. I think we'll offer him on his visit and he'll accept. Hopefully he can work himself into the rotation in the next couple of years and be a good player for us.

 

[nagemj02]

Yes Nag I am Morgan Burke........

If you read my post, it says they could add depth and I think familiarity with Purdue family culture will help the team next year. So bringing in players that can help in practice and help push the starters is the way to go, even more so they are familiar with Purdue with being Ian Stanback's son who played at Purdue last year when his IUPUI Team came to Mackey and Davis who played in Muncie, IN where Matt Painter is from and familiar with him.

This team does not need new players who will start (Besides maybe C. Edwards who will challenge PJ), we have our depth there, but we need complimentary players who will add depth and could help with minutes if needed with injury or foul trouble or special situations.

The reason college basketball has so many transfers is because only so many kids can play and recruiting over the top of them and thus the transfer options comes to light.

If I was MP, I would add quality depth and a seasoned RS Senior and a potential recruit that has two years to give to the team in either a RS JR or JC.

The 2017 class will determine the future of this team, not 2016.

To agree with you Nag, Bane seems like a good athletic talent, but time will tell if he is offered.

Those are my thoughts and my opinions...Always Positive 110% Boiler Up!

Familiarity is not always the best solution. Do you think Purdue would have made the NCAA Tournament in 2015 if they hadn't recruited grad-transfer Jon Octeus out of Colorado State? I don't think P.J. Thompson as a frosh, Bryson Scott, and perhaps doing something like giving Stephen Toyra a scholly that season would have got it done at the 1 and gotten them into the tournament.

 

[nagemj02]

I think the chances of us landing an "impact" newcomer for 2016 at this point are slim and none and we have many open scholarships to fill. I think our best opportunity is trying to find another Sterling Carter, Octeus, or Hill that can come in and fill in some minutes at the point guard position and possibly the same at a PF/C post spot. MAYBE we can rely on Edwards and Taylor as backups there next year but I'd feel better if we have some experienced depth.

I am fine with offering Bane but I don't see him making an immediate impact. Of course, I'd love to be wrong about that but there are reasons he doesn't have many high major offers. I think we'll offer him on his visit and he'll accept. Hopefully he can work himself into the rotation in the next couple of years and be a good player for us.

It's not even May yet. There's still a ton of players that have to decide whether to return or stay in the NBA Draft. Some of those players that return may decide to transfer for their final season and be eligibile immediately (i.e. Jaron Blossomgame from Clemson). Jon Octeus didn't commit to Purdue until September or October of the '14-'15 season. Nemanja Calasan didn't commit to Purdue until late May of 2007, I believe. To state that their prospects at this point are slim and none is foolish, given their past history.

 

[TC4THREE]

It's not even May yet. There's still a ton of players that have to decide whether to return or stay in the NBA Draft. Some of those players that return may decide to transfer for their final season and be eligibile immediately (i.e. Jaron Blossomgame from Clemson). Jon Octeus didn't commit to Purdue until September or October of the '14-'15 season. Nemanja Calasan didn't commit to Purdue until late May of 2007, I believe. To state that their prospects at this point are slim and none is foolish, given their past history.

I guess I don't consider either of your examples as instant impact players. If you're just talking about players that can come in and be in the rotation then sure. When I hear instant-impact I'm thinking of players that will be all-conference or lead the team in scoring or something of that nature. Blossomgame could be such a player but I'd still put the chances of someone at his level ending up up at Purdue for 2016 at this point as slim and none.

 

[nagemj02]

I guess I don't consider either of your examples as instant impact players. If you're just talking about players that can come in and be in the rotation then sure. When I hear instant-impact I'm thinking of players that will be all-conference or lead the team in scoring or something of that nature. Blossomgame could be such a player but I'd still put the chances of someone at his level ending up up at Purdue for 2016 at this point as slim and none.

You don't think Octeus was an impact player for Purdue?

 

[TC4THREE]

You don't think Octeus was an impact player for Purdue?

He helped. If that's what you mean by instant impact player then fine. I think of a little higher level player when I hear the term.

 

[nagemj02]

He helped. If that's what you mean by instant impact player then fine. I think of a little higher level player when I hear the term.

He took over at the 1 and helped lead them to the NCAA Tournament. They might have been an NIT team in '14-'15 without him. I would call that an impact player.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

He took over at the 1 and helped lead them to the NCAA Tournament. They might have been an NIT team in '14-'15 without him. I would call that an impact player.

That's very true, but Octeus made his greatest impact on defense where he was superb. He wasn't that great against pressure, which has been Purdue's big issue for two straight years now.

 

[nagemj02]

That's very true, but Octeus made his greatest impact on defense where he was superb. He wasn't that great against pressure, which has been Purdue's big issue for two straight years now.

He was second on the team in rebounds as well, T-2nd in assists with Ray, team leader in steals, a 49% shooter from the field and a 72% shooter from the charity stripe. Yes, that team probably could have handled traps/presses better as well. However, I don't think he struggled against it as much as Johnny Hill, Thompson, Davis, Mathias, and V. Edwards did/have been.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Familiarity is not always the best solution. Do you think Purdue would have made the NCAA Tournament in 2015 if they hadn't recruited grad-transfer Jon Octeus out of Colorado State? I don't think P.J. Thompson as a frosh, Bryson Scott, and perhaps doing something like giving Stephen Toyra a scholly that season would have got it done at the 1 and gotten them into the tournament.

Familiarity with Purdue's culture is good. What we don't want is some talented guy to come in and upset the apple cart and not follow our system and family structure and be a bad apple.

Stanback knows the family culture and "Team Game" at Purdue and maybe is a stretch talent wise, but he can add value in practice against Taylor, Edwards, Biggie and Haas.

Davis is a solid two guard who can also handle the ball and add depth and some leadership.

I disagree with you as far as Jon McKeeman, he may not see the floor much next year or if at all, but he will be invaluable to C. Edwards and PJ as they mature........

We can agree to disagree, but I think CMP looks for players who can add depth and value in practice and that can fit our family culture for 2016.

Like we all know 2017 recruits are going to be what carries this program forward.....

All positive stuff Nag and the whole wild card in all of this is if Biggie bolts to the NBA (which I don't think he will), but if he does, then we need a bigtime player to come in and potentially start or play significant minutes.

We have the A players, now we just need some role players that fit our system for a year to keep the program going.

Boiler Up!

 

[BoilerDaddy]

He was second on the team in rebounds as well, T-2nd in assists with Ray, team leader in steals, a 49% shooter from the field and a 72% shooter from the charity stripe. Yes, that team probably could have handled traps/presses better as well. However, I don't think he struggled against it as much as Johnny Hill, Thompson, Davis, Mathias, and V. Edwards did/have been.

Don't get me wrong. I think that Octeus was a very good player for Purdue. I'm just saying that Painter has also been trying to find a more traditional point guard who can stabilize the team in high pressure situations. Octeus wasn't really a true point guard, but was able to play the position in large part because of the system.

CE might be that guy, but probably not as a freshman. Spike could possibly be that guy for a year, if healthy, while CE matures. I haven't ruled out PJ yet, either, though he never will have ideal quickness for the role.

 

[TC4THREE]

He took over at the 1 and helped lead them to the NCAA Tournament. They might have been an NIT team in '14-'15 without him. I would call that an impact player.

Like I said, if you call him an impact player then fine. I call him a contributor.

 

[nagemj02]

Like I said, if you call him an impact player then fine. I call him a contributor.

Impact can mean to alter or influence and he altered that team's chances of making the NCAA Tournament and his play probably influenced his teammates to look for the open man when they weren't it, generally be more team-oriented on both sides of the ball and vice-versa.

 

[nagemj02]

Familiarity with Purdue's culture is good. What we don't want is some talented guy to come in and upset the apple cart and not follow our system and family structure and be a bad apple.

Stanback knows the family culture and "Team Game" at Purdue and maybe is a stretch talent wise, but he can add value in practice against Taylor, Edwards, Biggie and Haas.

Davis is a solid two guard who can also handle the ball and add depth and some leadership.

I disagree with you as far as Jon McKeeman, he may not see the floor much next year or if at all, but he will be invaluable to C. Edwards and PJ as they mature........

We can agree to disagree, but I think CMP looks for players who can add depth and value in practice and that can fit our family culture for 2016.

Like we all know 2017 recruits are going to be what carries this program forward.....

All positive stuff Nag and the whole wild card in all of this is if Biggie bolts to the NBA (which I don't think he will), but if he does, then we need a bigtime player to come in and potentially start or play significant minutes.

We have the A players, now we just need some role players that fit our system for a year to keep the program going.

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The family culture you write about has led to 0 Final Fours or better in 36 years under Keady and Painter. This is a pitfall of being too conservative and trying to be comfortable and "family-oriented" all of the time: limited or a low-ceiling for ultimate success.

 

[TC4THREE]

Impact can mean to alter or influence and he altered that team's chances of making the NCAA Tournament and his play probably influenced his teammates to look for the open man when they weren't it, generally be more team-oriented on both sides of the ball and vice-versa.

Anyone who is a contributor makes an impact of some sort. The term "impact player" has a different connotation to me above and beyond that. If it doesn't to you, so be it.

 

[nagemj02]

Anyone who is a contributor makes an impact of some sort. The term "impact player" has a different connotation to me above and beyond that. If it doesn't to you, so be it.

In this case, I believe the player changed the outcome of Purdue's postseason possibilities (from NIT to NCAA Tournament team). If that's not a notable impact player to you, then I'm not sure what would be. So, it doesn't necessarily have to be someone chosen on an all-conference or All-American team.

 

[TC4THREE]

The family culture you write about has led to 0 Final Fours or better in 36 years under Keady and Painter. This is a pitfall of being too conservative and trying to be comfortable and "family-oriented" all of the time: limited or a low-ceiling for ultimate success.

This is certainly a reach. I could just as easily hypothesize that the pitfall of a college having nagemj02 as your fan is a low-ceiling for ultimate success. Those are facts but you certainly can't prove any link between them.

 

[TC4THREE]

In this case, I believe the player changed the outcome of Purdue's postseason possibilities (from NIT to NCAA Tournament team). If that's not a notable impact player to you, then I'm not sure what would be. So, it doesn't necessarily have to be someone chosen on an all-conference or All-American team.

Blah blah blah. He was a nice player and a contributor on an NCAA tournament team. He wasn't the best player on the team and I'd say he wasn't in the top 3. He helped fill in a missing piece and in doing so made the team better. You want to call it an instant impact player then go right ahead. I'm not going to argue the semantics. He's certainly not what I consider an instant impact player to be. We can keep going around on this as long as you want. I'm not going to say anything that will change your mind and you're certainly not going to be able to convince me.

 

[nagemj02]

Actually, that is an opinion of yours. The 0 Final Fours in 36 years for the program is a fact. I understand that my additional comments in that message are my opinions supported by that fact.

 

[TC4THREE]

Actually, that is an opinion. The 0 Final Fours in 36 years for the program is a fact. I understand that my additional comments in that message are my opinions supported by that fact.

Duke basketball is very family oriented. Just look at the way Coach K keeps bringing back former players as assistants. He's won 5 national championships. Just think about how many he might have if he hired more from outside the program and been less "family-oriented"......

 

[TC4THREE]

Actually, that is an opinion of yours. The 0 Final Fours in 36 years for the program is a fact. I understand that my additional comments in that message are my opinions supported by that fact.

You don't get it. Just because two facts exist doesn't mean there is any connection between them.

nagemj02 is a Purdue fan. Fact?
Purdue hasn't been to Final Four in a long time. Fact?

Does the first fact have anything to do with the second? Absolutely not.

So when you say that having a family-oriented program results in a lower ceiling for ultimate success, you are spewing an opinion that really can't be supported even though you used two separate facts to reach it.

 

[nagemj02]

Duke basketball is very family oriented. Just look at the way Coach K keeps bringing back former players as assistants. He's won 5 national championships. Just think about how many he might have if he hired more from outside the program and been less "family-oriented"......

Yeah, that's former players learning from him. That's not the same thing as fans or the coaching staff wanting to recruit low-quality prospects just because they're from the Lafayette area or from the state of Indiana. Coach K has recruited and gotten players from all over the country since he first arrived at Duke. That hasn't been the case as much (national recruiting success) at Purdue. Most of the top players Purdue has gotten under Keady and Painter have been from the Midwest.

I'm referring to the common Purdue sports mentality of going with "safe" choices nearby instead of better ones elsewhere, even if those safe prospects or recruits aren't really good enough to make a difference in the actual games. People want them just to keep it in the Purdue family, but it doesn't make the product any better as a result.

 

[PU52Chevy]

The family culture you write about has led to 0 Final Fours or better in 36 years under Keady and Painter. This is a pitfall of being too conservative and trying to be comfortable and "family-oriented" all of the time: limited or a low-ceiling for ultimate success.

Rather have what we have and do it right than be a cheat like UNC, Duke and Kentucky......at the end of the day I have my character and so does my school......

Again we differ Nag which is fine we all need to have opinions....I am a realist.

I would rather stay the course and break thru sometime doing it the right way than go after one and done's or create mythical classes to get sketchy kids who will walk away with the same Purdue degree I have but didn't earn it.

No Thanks.....I would rather not win any Final Fours if we have to cheat or compromise......I will take the steady, blue collar, hard working kids who believe in Family and especially Purdue.

Never sell out like some people on here......

Again I will always be positive.....and a realist.

Boiler Up!

 

[TC4THREE]

Yeah, that's former players learning from him. That's not the same thing as fans or the coaching staff wanting to recruit low-quality prospects just because they're from the Lafayette area or from the state of Indiana. Coach K has recruited and gotten players from all over the country since he first arrived at Duke. That hasn't been the case as much (national recruiting success) at Purdue. Most of the top players Purdue has gotten under Keady and Painter have been from the Midwest.

I'm referring to the common Purdue sports mentality of going with "safe" choices nearby instead of better ones elsewhere, even if those safe prospects or recruits aren't really good enough to make a difference in the actual games. People want them just to keep it in the Purdue family, but it doesn't make the product any better as a result.

Oh so it's not being family-oriented anymore it's being safe?

Do you think there might be more to the recruiting than just the coach? Just a thought.............

 

[Dryfly88]

Rather have what we have and do it right than be a cheat like UNC, Duke and Kentucky......at the end of the day I have my character and so does my school......

Again we differ Nag which is fine we all need to have opinions....I am a realist.

I would rather stay the course and break thru sometime doing it the right way than go after one and done's or create mythical classes to get sketchy kids who will walk away with the same Purdue degree I have but didn't earn it.

No Thanks.....I would rather not win any Final Fours if we have to cheat or compromise......I will take the steady, blue collar, hard working kids who believe in Family and especially Purdue.

Never sell out like some people on here......

Again I will always be positive.....and a realist.

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Why would someone get a PU degree that "didn't earn it"? Just because we try and recruit better players doesn't mean they can't go to class and graduate. You act like they are mutually exclusive and they aren't.

 

[TC4THREE]

Why would someone get a PU degree that "didn't earn it"? Just because we try and recruit better players doesn't mean they can't go to class and graduate. You act like they are mutually exclusive and they aren't.

I think the point is that some of these elite recruits might prefer options where they don't have to worry about going to class and they can find that at other places if they so choose. And yes, Purdue does have some easier majors but, to my knowledge, athletes still have to do the work to get through them.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Why would someone get a PU degree that "didn't earn it"? Just because we try and recruit better players doesn't mean they can't go to class and graduate. You act like they are mutually exclusive and they aren't.

Not what I meant at all...re-read my post...said sketchy players put into mythical classes to get them to Purdue......

I like the kids we recruit.....they all seems smart, team oriented and have good solid backgrounds of faith.

These others schools somehow get kids in that cant even take their own SAT and somehow graduate them....or somehow they get in because of these mythical classes.....Rose of Memphis comes to mind.

I want a kid to come to Purdue for Purdue and be a great student athlete.....that's who I want to call fellow Boilermaker and have the same school degree as me.....that's all I am saying.

Don't twist my words and make me out to be evil...I am positive and 110% Purdue!

Boiler Up!

 

[Dryfly88]

Not what I meant at all...re-read my post...said sketchy players put into mythical classes to get them to Purdue......

I like the kids we recruit.....they all seems smart, team oriented and have good solid backgrounds of faith.

These others schools somehow get kids in that cant even take their own SAT and somehow graduate them....or somehow they get in because of these mythical classes.....Rose of Memphis comes to mind.

I want a kid to come to Purdue for Purdue and be a great student athlete.....that's who I want to call fellow Boilermaker and have the same school degree as me.....that's all I am saying.

Don't twist my words and make me out to be evil...I am positive and 110% Purdue!

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Pump the brakes.... No one has said anyone is evil. You said you don't want PU putting kids into "sketchy" classes and letting them get a degree they didn't earn. I'm asking who has ever said that is necessary to get better players?There have been many very good players come to PU and many other schools that go to class and get their degrees. You are suggesting that the two things (great players and good students) are mutually exclusive. I'm simply saying that isn't true and we can get both.

If a player doesn't want to get a "real" degree or go to "real" classes, then I don't want him at PU. You and I are in complete agreement about that.

 

[Dryfly88]

I think the point is that some of these elite recruits might prefer options where they don't have to worry about going to class and they can find that at other places if they so choose. And yes, Purdue does have some easier majors but, to my knowledge, athletes still have to do the work to get through them.

There are plenty of elite players that want a real education. If they don't then they don't belong at PU. That was my only point, that great players and real education are not mutually exclusive. There are many schools, not just PU that make kids go to real classes.

 

[PU52Chevy]

There are plenty of elite players that want a real education. If they don't then they don't belong at PU. That was my only point, that great players and real education are not mutually exclusive. There are many schools, not just PU that make kids go to real classes.

Never said anything about exclusive anything......

Just saying where I live in North Carolina...especially UNC, they made up classes to send not only basketball but football and other athletes to these mythical classes to help them stay in school and graduate.

I don't want those kids at Purdue no matter how good they play a sport to win a Final Four.....

Done with this subject and people putting words in my mouth.

 

[TC4THREE]

There are plenty of elite players that want a real education. If they don't then they don't belong at PU. That was my only point, that great players and real education are not mutually exclusive. There are many schools, not just PU that make kids go to real classes.

And the elite players that want a good education can still get that almost anywhere if they so desire. It's not like UNC declined 5 star recruits that wanted to take real classes instead of their bogus ones. That doesn't set us apart. Making them go to class and earn a real diploma does limit us in recruiting by not allowing those that don't want to deal with real college classes. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we should be doing those things but I think far too many people here live in some sort of dream world where they pretend we're on a level playing field with everyone else and the only reason we don't land Recruits X, Y, and Z are because of a coach.

 

[Dryfly88]

OK, let me make this really simple:

There are schools that let players come and attend bogus classes or no classes at all. UNC is one very easy example right now (or at least it certainly looks like it). If that is what a kid wants then PU is not for them (and I'm very happy about that). There are a ton of schools that do require players to attend "regular" classes and work towards their degree (PU being one of them).

My point had nothing to do with CMP or any other coach. I was simply trying to point out that a school doesn't have to offer bogus classes to attract top talent. Does it mean that PU will be in the running for every player in the top 100? Absolutely not, but that doesn't mean that we aren't capable of recruiting many that are. I just felt like it was being suggested that it was an either or proposition: Offer bogus classes, or settle for lesser talented players. I don't believe that is true.

Dead horse has been beaten enough, I will stop now.

 

[BuilderBob6]

J. Stanback and J. Davis can transfer and walk-on if they want, but come on, the coaching staff needs to make these 2016 additions good ones. There's plenty of average DI transfers available: they need to try and find IMPACT newcomers. I don't know why Bane hasn't been offered yet. He can develop in the system and who knows, he might have star qualities to him.

Just curious, are you Morgan Burke?

I'm confused. In the same paragraph you say any 2016 players need to be IMPACT newcomers but then talk about wanting Bane who would need to develop and might have what it takes. Seems contradictory to me.

 

[nagemj02]

I'm confused. In the same paragraph you say any 2016 players need to be IMPACT newcomers but then talk about wanting Bane who would need to develop and might have what it takes. Seems contradictory to me.

They don't all have to be instant impact players. IMO, Bane is one that looks like he can develop into one. He looks like he has the necessary tools. The only thing I wonder about is his overall athleticism. His jumper looks like it has a low-release point to it but it's not a jumper that's impossible to fix.