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That team had Carsen Edwards, who put on a tourney performance of historical proportions. This team doesn't have a Carsen Edwards who can carry them.
Time will tell if we do or don't? Carsen is one of my all time favorite Boilers, but Cox & Smith can get hot too.
We may not have a singular player like Carsen but may have several that prove capable when the time comes.

Purdue at Minnesota: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

Happy New Year, ladies and gentlemen. This evening, it's back to Big Ten conference play with the #20-ranked Purdue Boilermakers (9-4; 1-1) visiting Williams Arena in Minneapolis to take on the Minnesota Golden Gophers (8-5; 0-2). Tip is scheduled for approximately 8:00 pm (Eastern time) with television coverage on FOX Sports 1 Network (FS1). This will be the only regular season match-up for the schools this season. Purdue won the single match-up last season, 86-74 at home.

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Projected Starting Line-ups:

Purdue - Trey Kaufman-Renn, Camden Heide, Myles Colvin, Fletcher Loyer, and Braden Smith

Minnesota - Parker Fox, Dawson Garcia, Mike Mitchell Jr., LuCye Patterson, and Femi Odukale

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Both teams are coming off wins last Sunday entering this contest. Purdue defeated Toledo, 83-64, behind the strength of Braden Smith's 34 points and 12 assists, and Minnesota dispatched Morgan State at home, 90-68, led by Mike Mitchell Jr.'s 22 points. The Golden Gophers are looking for their first conference win, and this would be a good statement for them if they could pull the upset in a venue where Purdue has sometimes struggled.

Minnesota is led by 5th year senior Dawson Garcia, who started his career at Marquette with a stop at North Carolina before settling in with his third season for Minnesota. He is one of the better players in the conference and has caused plenty of problems in past games against Purdue. He has scored 18 or more points in five consecutive games, including 22 against Indiana in Bloomington. He is averaging 19.1 PPG on 50% shooting. Along side Garcia, Mike Mitchell Jr. also poses a threat, scoring 15 or more in three of his past four games. The senior guard has posted an average of 13.3 PPG on 56% shooting. The other two starters that Minnesota looks for some scoring are Lu'Cye Patterson (9.7 PPG) and Femi Odukale (5.1 PPG and 4.2 RPG). Parker Fox is not leaned on heavily, and most of his work is inside the arc, although he has hit double figures a couple of times.

KenPom ratings have Minnesota at 109th (163rd offensively and 90th defensively). The Golden Gophers have one of the slowest pace of play ratings - 360th in adjusted tempo. Purdue is at 27th overal (11th offensively and 70th defensively). Adjusted tempo has them at 303rd in the ratings for pace. Minnesota is scoring an average of 67.9 points on the season and give up a 29th best 63.9 points.

Look for the Boilers on defense to focus on Garcia and Mitchell. Garcia is fourth in the conference with 19.1 points per game, and 11th with 7.4 rebounds. The fifth-year senior is shooting from deep at the second-best clip of his career, 36.7%, on a career-high 3.8 attempts a game. He has the highest true shooting percentage of his career. According to Matt Painter - "It's not like one guy's gonna guard him. Do a good job keeping him off the glass, not letting him have an easy post-up, not letting him have a wide-open 3. He's gonna score some points, there's no doubt about that. Just make him earn it."

As for the difficulty with Mitchell and the supporting cast - "He can make step-back 3s with people on him. Just can't let him have a couple step-in 3s. Limit his good looks, even though he'll make tough ones. With the other guys, you've gotta do your best with keeping them in front of you. Just can't let them live in the paint. I think it's gonna be important for us to contain the dribble and, as a team, keep the ball out of the paint. And then not allow second-chance opportunities."

A recurring theme for Purdue on defense. Again, Purdue has to find a way to limit Minnesota from damaging possessions in the paint or second chance opportunities off the offensive glass. As for the offense, the Boilers really need to execute, and they should be in good shape. However, if they get a little careless or lose focus and have some turnovers, that's where Minnesota could cause some issues. In addition, let's see if Colvin, Heide, Harris, Cox, and Furst can provide a little more scoring production.

The boilers have yet to prove they can be a solidly consistent executing team on the road....can they take a step toward that tonight? Any road win in the conference is a good win.....we shall see this evening.

Boiler up, my friends.

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2024-25 Purdue Transfer THREAD

Yes and if you are referring to the Purdue guys left in the portal the majority of them just entered a week ago or less so it’s hard telling where they’ll end up but most likely they won’t be coming back to Purdue after entering this late. Lewis and Crimmins have been in it for weeks now so they could be a maybe on a return. Brown just entered a couple days ago. Green and Smith probably had to wait on their checks to clear for the year before bolting to the portal. M’ba and Wingfield recently entered due to the new JUCO rule allowing JUCO guys to play more years in college.

Remaining portal guys
DL - Damarjhe Lewis
P - Keelan Crimmins
DB - Nyland Green
WR - CJ Smith
DL - Jefferey M’Ba
OL - DJ Wingfield
DB - Anthony Brown
Would love to hang onto that punter - he was the lone bright spot this season.

We need.......................

I think Purdue will have to put together a competitive offer, just like they did this year. I think Braden recognizes what he has at Purdue and wouldn’t look to go elsewhere unless the money were so much greater that he couldn’t say no.

This is all based on the assumption that Purdue has a decent season. If they’re not winning, Braden may be tempted to go somewhere where he has a chance to make it back to the final four.
Do you think Painter would have a 1 on 1 with Smith and say "What do you need me to get you from the portal?". (meaning, what does Painter need to go get in the portal to makes Smiths job easier and build a NC team)

I can see teams in need of a facilitating PG who can shoot coming after Smith with big $. But, Smith might also feel some sense of loyalty to Painter for being the only P5 program to recruit him.
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In the final AP Poll since 2020

2024- Purdue(2), Illinois(6)
2023- Purdue(3), Indiana(21)
2022- Purdue(10), Wisconsin(14), Iowa(16), Illinois(19)
2021- Illinois(2), Michigan(4), Ohio State(7), Iowa(8), Purdue(20)
2020- Michigan St(9), Maryland(12), Wisconsin(17), Ohio State(19), Illinois(21), Iowa(25)

Last 2 seasons... Not great. 2023 was the first time since the 2008-2009 season that the B1G only had 2 teams in the final AP Poll. Michigan St(8) and Purdue(17). 2012-2013 might be the best year for the top of the league as 4 teams finished in the Top 10. Indiana(4), Ohio State(7), Michigan St(9), Michigan(10). Also goes a long with the 2020-2021 season.

2025 as of now- Oregon(9), UCLA(15), Michigan St(18), Purdue(20), Illinois(22).

This is better than last year where at this point it was Purdue(1), Illinois(9), Wisconsin(21).

So all in all, yea the Big Ten was down the past couple years and this year is... Okayish but you added 4 teams and 2 of them suck.

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There are a lot of solid teams but I think it’s fair to say that the Big Ten looks like it lacks elite teams at the top.
Indeed. Oregon looks good. But we will see how they shake out in the B1G schedule. This has been an ongoing problem for the Big Ten. Over the years the amount of elite talent has started to drop off. A lot of it going to the SEC. The thing about the Big Ten is that coaches are good at game planning against other Big Ten schools. It isn't like Big Ten schools aren't good, they just aren't elite. Like the past two years there was Purdue. There have been great years throughout the 2010s where you had Michigan State who was nationally elite. Ohio State. Purdue. Wisconsin. Illinois a couple of years. Indiana a couple of years. Maryland a couple of years. Michigan. Just don't have that elite talent and nationally elite teams. Oregon, UCLA and Michigan State look like the best. Michigan and Purdue right behind that or even in that group.

We need.......................

I think Purdue will have to put together a competitive offer, just like they did this year. I think Braden recognizes what he has at Purdue and wouldn’t look to go elsewhere unless the money were so much greater that he couldn’t say no.

This is all based on the assumption that Purdue has a decent season. If they’re not winning, Braden may be tempted to go somewhere where he has a chance to make it back to the final four.
Nobody knows, but consider this: Braden could have went to a school other than Westfield...perhaps a team that would be even better than Westfield had Braden left, but he didn't. He stayed at Westfield and broke his foot. He already had a scholly from Purdue and could have stayed out the season to heal for Purdue. Instead he had a screw placed inside his foot and rested it hopeful he could play in the sectional a few weeks away. There were no guarantees, but he wanted to win Westfields first sectional. He never played until sectional and he was in the toughest sectional in the state. Well, Westfield won the sectional beating Fishers and Carmel and another team (Noblesville?) and he put on quite a show with some help from Cam Haffner (whose dad was in the NBA) who came out the third quarter taking some "iffy" shots that he made and really was key in the Carmel game in particular.

I'm guessing that Braden lives for competition and isn't afraid of the odds and if he would go to a loaded team...winning might not bring the satisfaction as the challenge of winning with a "good" team...sorta like Robinson turned down Michigan and the loaded fab five team and the money to go to Purdue. I think both may share that mental aspect...but I could be wrong since this is just my speculation. I'm guessing that there are people in the forum that played some pickup that preferred to play on a lesser team for that exact personal challenge.
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